The fridge is a toy example. Take all machinery man has made and destroy it. Will you survive? Or live in a space ship and destroy the ship. Will you survive? Or have a pacemaker or an iron lung or dialysis. How about the simple concept of a combustion engine or any necessary subcomponent, where removing that today would grind all logistics to a halt. How long do you survive? Just because you have one machine that is replaceable doesn't refute that you need machines as much as they need you.

If you so readily dismiss Herbert's definition of control posit a competitor and we can pressure test it. Also, "correlated with a toddler's world view" is not the epic rhetorical refute you think it is.

"Just because you have one machine that is replaceable doesn't refute that you need machines as much as they need you."

LOL you took something that was interesting to think about then took that idea and smashed it against a wall of stupidity.

the idea that humans need machines more than machines need humans is self evidently stupid - you're like those machines in fiction; the only way you could have said something so stupid is if you have a malicious intent to pollute the world with your deliberately stupid nonsense. there is no onus on that guy to provide a counterpoint to disprove your stupidity. the sheer audacity you display is astounding.