I would genuinely be interested in knowing what you're doing that led you to this conclusion.

I would be shocked if I was unable to solve 4th grade math homework with any of the contemporary frontier models. I spend most days using them to do significantly more complex things than that.

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margalabargala 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If they took a blurry photo of the piece of paper and uploaded to chatGPT saying "solve this" then I would totally believe it. The frontier models are mostly obnoxiously bad at OCR and properly ingesting what's on an image of a page.

If you write out the 4th grade math problem, they would have no trouble.

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otabdeveloper4 an hour ago | parent [-]

No, LLMs just can't do math.

	▲	minimaxir an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If your math does not involve multiplying 20 digit numbers, modern LLMs can "do" math even without a Python tool despite the counterintuition of next token prediction.
	▲	bdamm an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		They can definitely recognize the problem class and build programs to do math. So what's the difference? It's like saying that people can't turn high torque nuts on machine bolts, because you can't use your fingers to do it. But you can use a wrench, so effectively, we can turn high torque nuts on machine bolts even though it isn't something we can natively do unaided.