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| ▲ | edbaskerville 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| If you read The Mac is Not a Typewriter in 1992—thus burning Option-Shift-hyphen into your typing patterns for life, along with a dogmatic love for serif body fonts—you're the real victim here. |
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| ▲ | zamadatix 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Or those of us that use a full featured editor when writing md! This reminds me of another em dash+AI related topic: I've noticed LLMs have an extreme bias towards spaces around the dash while people can go either way with it. | |
| ▲ | rzzzt 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There's something similar in Microsoft Word, Ctrl-Alt-Minus on the numpad. |
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| ▲ | galleywest200 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I prefer the double dash "--", but Microsoft products will convert this to a proper em-dash if you press space afterwards, I think... |
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| ▲ | Retr0id 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| A lot of the LLM bots on HN (and elsewhere) will find-and-replace their em dashes with hypens in an attempt to evade detection. |
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| ▲ | zamadatix 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Precisely, anything to remove AI smells in favor of natural looking text. | | |
| ▲ | Retr0id 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | My point is I don't consider em dash vs hyphen to be a strong signal either way, humans and bots alike use both interchangeably. | | |
| ▲ | zamadatix 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | A signal is not the same thing as a guarantee. Both of your points so far, i.e. your provided text & that bots often bother to replace em dashes to avoid detection, actually support that it is a signal though. | | |
| ▲ | Retr0id 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The stronger signal is the grammatical structure, not the specific glyph used. | | |
| ▲ | zamadatix 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The stronger yet signal is both combined! This glyph, that emoji, a given sentence structure, that formatting, a certain phrase. The more you notice -> the stronger the signal, the more you miss/discard -> the weaker the signal. |
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