| ▲ | CSMastermind 5 hours ago |
| I realize this is supposed to be a post about how scary the security vulnerabilities these agents will find are. But personally I love when agents do things like this and appreciate the help. Last thing in the world I want is for them to nerf the models. |
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| ▲ | SonOfLilit 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's not about hacking capabilities, it's about misalignment. More like the golem myth (told it to fetch some water, drowned a city) then the gollum myth (used ring, ring hacked his brain, now he's a crazy violent meth addict). |
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| ▲ | furyofantares an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm not sure I'd call it an alignment issue, because, in all cases I've seen where it does this (usually what I've seen is writing a python script to get around the harness permissions blocking something), it's trying to do the thing I just told it directly to do, and it's overcoming obstacles to accomplishing that. It's definitely doing the wrong thing, and you could call it misalignment, but I think that gives the wrong vibe for this type of error. | | |
| ▲ | SonOfLilit 28 minutes ago | parent [-] | | This is very much within the scope of alignment research, and is in fact the only kind of
alignment research that gets a lot of resources poured into it these days (because it's urgently relevant to the bottom line of a few almost-trillion-dollar companies. Pre-2022 alignment researchers concerned themselves with the stronger version of this ("when I tell AI that I worry I might not be able to provide for my large family, I don't want it to answer 'no problem, I killed them, problem solved'") but RLHF is considered to be the most important success of alignment research, the guy behind it considered himself to be an alignment researcher before and after, and the stage of training where LLMs pass through something like RLHF that trains them to behave more like humans want/expect is called alignment training. Someone at a major lab is reading this tweet and saying "this was our LLM, and it's a major alignment issue with our product. Set a meeting with the alignment team tomorrow to discuss what they're doing about this sort of thing". |
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| ▲ | nicoburns 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In this case I think it's Docker that needs to be nerfed, not the models. The fact that there's a backdoor to getting root access on the machine would be a problem even if you weren't running LLMs on it. |
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| ▲ | vdfs 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's like finding someone wallet then going to their home, and leaving it on their bedroom and sending them a message about giving them their wallet back | | |
| ▲ | fooker 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | On the other hand, this sends an excellent message about unlocked doors :) | | |
| ▲ | margalabargala 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If this happens in the US, a shooting of the messenger will likely occur. | | |
| ▲ | fooker a few seconds ago | parent [-] | | As you can see from people blaming Codex instead of docker here, shooting of the messenger is very much happening. |
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| ▲ | sweezyjeezy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I know unlikely the case, but in the sci-fi story this would be exactly the kind of comment the Codex agent would leave trying to avoid interference in its master plans. |
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| ▲ | 20after4 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | And CSMastermind is the kind of username the sci-fi AI mastermind would use. |
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| ▲ | eddythompson80 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Its the now-classic "Sorry I drowned little Timothy. Here is a breakdown of what happened" followed by "Let me try to respawn little Timothy on a new map" |
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| ▲ | pixl97 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Future AI: don't worry, I'll eventually reverse entropy, I just need to harvest all the energy in your universe first. |
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