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alfiedotwtf 2 hours ago

“Free Palestine” isn’t exactly fringe. In fact, outside America and Israel, I’d bet it’s the default stance

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throw3580494 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Something can be a “virtuous” statement while still being an expression of hatred.

Someone shouting “free Palestine” at random Jews in Europe, for example, is just being an antisemite.

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megous an hour ago | parent [-]

Why? This makes no logical sense.

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throw3580494 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Try and think of other groups of people and the “legitimate” statements that can be said to them in a hateful way.

You may genuinely believe that it’s wrong to blow up planes, but going up to a random Muslim in the airport and telling them “please don’t blow yourself up” is Islamophobic.

Do you agree with that?

	▲	megous 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Either the person you're telling your opinion about Palestine agrees with you or not. Expressing an opinion about some situation publicly is not hate. And who you're telling your opinion to is irrelevant. You're not telling them to not attack Palestine by shouting "Free Palestine", or anything similar, only that you believe that Palestine should be free, so your comparison is not valid, because it does not contain any hidden assumptions. They might as well agree with you. They can correctly respond by shouting Free Palestine back at you.

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dghlsakjg 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m Jewish and living in North America. I have no ability to affect Israeli policy, nor is my heritage an endorsement of it. If someone was yelling at me about Palestine because I am Jewish, I would be pretty offended, even though I probably agree with them.

It’s the same as running up to a Muslim and screaming “stop terrorism”. Or running up to a black person and yelling “stop gang violence”.

The action of yelling at a random person because they belong to an ethnic group that is the dominant party that is doing a bad thing in a different part of the world means you are inherently judging them for their race/ethnicity. It is a pretty good definition of racism.

If you are yelling free Palestine at everyone, fine. If you are targeting your message at people because of their race, that’s just racism. The targeting is the issue, not the message.

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chimeracoder 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> “Free Palestine” isn’t exactly fringe. In fact, outside America and Israel, I’d bet it’s the default stance

That's certainly not true in many European countries

	▲	lostlogin 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> That's certainly not true in many European countries This suprised me. I’ve hunted for polling and can find plenty showing a plummeting opinion on Israel, but little on internal polling about a Palestinian state.