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Eldodi 5 hours ago

How is AV2 expected to avoid the patent-pool issues AV1 ran into?

AV1 was designed as royalty-free, but Sisvel’s pool and the recent Dolby/Snap proved the contrary.

https://accessadvance.com/2026/03/24/access-advance-licensor...

UnlockedSecrets 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They filed a suit, henceforth making a claim of an issue...... They haven't "proved" anything other then they have lawyers on staff that can file some paperwork until the suit is settled in court...

AndrewDucker 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How does that prove anything?

They're claiming that there are patents, but that doesn't mean there are.

Eldodi 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Dolby is only the most recent case, Sisvel consorsium actually bills licences per device:

Consumer Display Device: EUR 0.32

Consumer Non-Display Device: EUR 0.11

(source here: https://www.sisvel.com/licensing-programmes/audio-and-video-...)

zamadatix 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sisvel allows you to pay them if you believe their claims, they haven't actually taken anyone not paying to court yet to prove that. The only court cases for VP9/AV1 from Sisvel so far have been their patents being found invalid/irrelevant.

Dolby is somewhat more interesting in that rather than scare tactics, media hype, and attempting to form a pool about it they are actually taking a patent assertion claim to court.

justinclift 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That crowd are just deeply concerned one of their lucrative revenue streams is disappearing.

So they seem to be attempting to pull a fast one and use unproven claims to try and convert their competitor into a replacement revenue source.

It'll probably be a case of whoever has the best lawyers + contacts + persistence wins.

But it'll be interesting if discovery shows evidence they know they don't have a case and are trying it anyway. "Piercing the corporate veil" can theoretically be a consequence of that AFAIK.

UnlockedSecrets 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How does how they bill for their product, matter in terms of if their lawsuit holds merit?

silotis 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can you point to any other patent lawsuit over AV1? AFAIK the Dolby case is the first.

croes 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That doesn’t prove their claims are valid.

I can claim the same and offer licenses per device.

croes 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No codec can ever avoid patent-pool claims.

Arodex 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Every single AV2 news here in the last week has seen exactly the same question.

Either go back read the answers there first, or I will assume you are part of a FUD campaign (yes, I know HN guidelines, but again every single AV2 news in the last week has seen the same rhetorical "questions" as top "comments").