| ▲ | mk_stjames 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||
It seems like it should say "It takes Two Neurons to Steer an already moving Bicycle". The simulation is so simplified that I see no terms for the control of pedaling. Riding a real bicycle isn't just about steering and leaning a bit. You need to propel the bicycle a certain amount. The paper buries this in the following:
They say 'damping instabilities' but it is way more than that, because as anyone who has learned to ride a bike knows, the hard part is getting started at that zero point of forward velocity - how to apply torque to the crank at the same time as compensating with the steering to balance at such low momentum. It's not a trivial solution to 'damping instabilities' when getting going in the first place is the most difficult part (as any 5 year old child will demonstrate). | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pstuart 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
Two to steer is still impressive. If we added in balance and pedaling/braking I wonder what the count would raise to then. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | charcircuit 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
>None of them made significant use of the speed—they all managed to control the bicycleusing just the handlebars. I think is where it refers to it. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | fwipsy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
I'm don't think it's possible to start a bike by pedalling with zero forward momentum. You will fall over. You need to kick off - start pedalling with the bike already moving forward. So you're right, and a third neuron is certainly not sufficient. You need legs, too, and arms, and a torso, and motor neurons, and respiration/metabolism. Clearly, the paper has no practical application; if you need to ride a bike, it's far cheaper to hire a human to do it. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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