I am so used to thinking that Zig, Rust, and the likes are only viable in niches where C is viable, but no. not anymore at least - once this linker and incremental compilation on other targets land, Zig will become THE C replacement and that will let me iterate at the speed of JS or Python with performance of C or Rust. even Andrew's initial dream - to create a DAW with uncompromising UX - will become much easier to create. once someone creates a Zig-native immediate-mode or reactive UI framework, that is.

I am still a little salty about `@cImport` removal, though! without it, I can't confidently call it "Kotlin of C" anymore.

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akazantsev an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Kotlin of C

That sounds good on paper. But as a guy who tried to learn Kotlin and only it. It comes with baggage to learn Java to use its libraries because... You know... they interact seamlessly and stuff. In the end, for a new learner, it might actually make things harder.

Nothing about Zig and C here, just a bit salty from my experience with Kotlin.

	▲	bpavuk 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Kotlin <-> Java interop is a totally optional topic you could have skipped over, telling you as a Kotlin developer (who recently had to switch to .NET because Ukrainian job market is fucked up). besides, Java itself isn't that hard if it's Java 17 or newer, and it's rather good if it's Java 25 or newer

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alexboehm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's already sort of possible. https://codeberg.org/fellowtraveler/flux here is my Zig DAW. It has been amazing for the audio engine, but the ui is currently using imgui.

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dnautics 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

idk, making @cImport just "@import" is an improvement imo.

	▲	bpavuk 10 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		`@import` that you have to configure in the build system first. this makes porting projects gradually, file by file, rather cumbersome. now I have to rewrite quite a lot of Chocolate Doom because my port was halfway there and then @cImport got gutted... or keep going with Zig 0.16.2 until it's either 100% Zig or has little enough files that upgrading won't make my build.zig file implode in lines of code

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gliptic 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Zig-native immediate-mode

dvui?