| ▲ | daft_pink 23 minutes ago | ||||||||||||||||
I think when these companies IPO later this year, we’re going to see the reality of the PNL numbers and whether they are sustainable etc as all the financials will become public. Rumor mill suggests that Anthropic might be profitable (but at what magnitude), OpenAI is not profitable, Google is mostly vertically integrated and has a low cost structure as they are have pre-existing data center buildouts, their own silicon and experience that suggests they will be able to operate at a very low cost, but they still have to justify their spend. I think having to report numbers publically on a quarterly basis will bring the whole thing into reality. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | daxfohl 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Agreed, and assuming local open AI models start catching up, which they seem to be doing, the foundation models' hold on society gets a lot slipperier. If there's a "what to do about all this" from an engineer's standpoint, pushing the needle toward local models, whether in research, agents, or just using them, understanding how they work, and advocating for them when it makes sense (which is more often than they get credit for) is probably the best ROI. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Zigurd 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> later this year One can hope that reality intrudes before the bubble gets even more dangerously inflated, but how many years has Tesla had a ridiculous P/E ratio. Even after growth stagnated and market leadership was lost in Asia and Europe. Number still goes up. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | fragmede 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> having to report numbers publically on a quarterly basis They won't need to do that if the new rules come into effect. | |||||||||||||||||