| ▲ | no_multitudes 44 minutes ago |
| The sentence construction, choice of vocabulary, and continually breathless tone are all clear indicators this was written by an llm and barely edited. I threw part of it into pangram to get a second opinion: https://www.pangram.com/history/8d6a7de3-86ac-4ce0-86c5-4f93... |
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| ▲ | jedberg 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| Have you tried putting known human writing into pangram? I have. I've gotten 100% AI with multiple samples of my own human writing. It has also given me 50% on things I know were 100% AI written (from my prompts). Pangram and everything like it is useless. The results are random on known samples. |
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| ▲ | MostlyStable 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Pangram specifically (as opposed to most other detectors) publish internal audits, and seem to welcome external audits [0]. I'm not saying that you are necessarily wrong, just that in my opinion they have earned a higher bar of criticism than random one off anecdote. [0] https://xcancel.com/JohnHolbein1/status/2059648132250570975#... | | |
| ▲ | jedberg 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That's a fair criticism, I certainly didn't run a full benchmark. Just a few of my own pieces of writing. I also did it a few months ago, maybe it's gotten better since. |
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| ▲ | no_multitudes 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's interesting! I have tried to get false positives from pangram and failed, so I trusted it a bit more than any of the others, although I generally just rely on my own intuition. I am curious what your false positive samples looked like, if you're willing to share. (I'm less interested in false negatives; I have successfully produced those myself.) | | |
| ▲ | jedberg 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'll try to pull them up for you, I'd have to go back and find them on my computer. |
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| ▲ | JRandomHacker42 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > There was no exploit. No vulnerability disclosure. No CVE for me to write. was a dead giveaway in my mind when I read it. |