Thought Claude models can only be used through Claude Code. I was wrong, I guess.

helloplanets 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you use API billing, you can use them from anywhere. But using Claude Code with a Max subscription is massively cheaper for programming. You should never use Claude models for programming through API billing, unless forced. The difference will easily rack up to thousands of dollars for heavy users.

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ramon156 18 hours ago | parent [-]

ACP still exists, not sure why no one other than Zed is using it. Its best of both worlds, because you're using their CLI but in another tool

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jshreder 18 hours ago | parent [-]

With the coming changes in June, ACP will charge towards the same budget as claude -p and the Claude Code SDK (since it uses the SDK), so ACP no longer solves this. It's (I think) why Zed added "Terminal Threads" [1] to their agent workflow

1: https://zed.dev/blog/terminal-threads

	▲	unshavedyak 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The ACP budget change is so bizarre to me. If i was more adventurous with my subscription i'd be interested to see if you could intercept UI/input from CC TUI and render that in a native GUI without it being a TUI. That would be "interactive Claude Code" but you'd get a programmatic interface. But that would be banned almost instantly i'm sure lol.

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saddlerustle 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not allowed, it spoofs claude code's requests.

https://github.com/patriceckhart/zot/blob/main/packages/prov...

	▲	LoganDark 17 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Does it spoof the Bun authentication/signing? If not, this will eventually stop working once Anthropic cuts off access from versions of Claude Code that don't sign their requests.

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kzrdude 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Claude models are usable through certain github copilot plans, so that's a counterexample, isn't it?

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dsrtslnd23 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Didn't they allow using oauth in custom harnesses for personal use (e.g. pi.dev)?

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PufPufPuf 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That changes every 2-3 days. The current stance is that only interactive mode of first party harnesses is covered under monthly plans, everything else is pay-as-you-go with monthly credit allowance equal to the plan price.

	▲	popcorncowboy 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Though this is how it will stay, and it won't be changing back. Anthropic has understood clearly for a while that they need to capture the stack. They will subsidise Max for as long as they need to do this. All other off-stack usage will get pushed into per-token billing.

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colinmarc 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is trivially circumventable by changing the system prompt (they string match against a blacklist).