This guy tried to resolve a legal dispute without a lawyer. Any competent business lawyer should have been able to straighten this out within days. He even tried to do process service himself, which nobody does. You pay a process server $100 or so for that.

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shadefinale 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The video has Ed Mansell stating that all the lawyers he spoke to informed him that it would not be financially viable for him to pursue a suit.

Additionally, there is audio of one of the would-be defendants saying that they intend to drag things out as long as possible, basically taunting both Ed and Ben to sue him as they all understand that it is not a viable solution to the problem for Ed.

Part 2 starts with 10 separate $10,000 default judgements won against the store, but they are unable to recover any of the funds.

Ben brings a process server with him to serve new lawsuits against the owners as individuals, and 4 separate times on the same day in the same spot, cops are sent to him. The cops even take the papers from the process server, try to serve the defendant, and then give it back to the process server saying it was refused . After that they don't allow the process server to serve the papers, and then the cops show up the 4th time and Ben is eventually arrested.

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Aurornis an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The guy who tried to serve the papers isn't the owner of the legos. It was a YouTuber who got involved and has been making video content on the subject.

If I'm reading this right, he travelled to a different state to serve the paperwork to the guy in person. He would have had to spend a lot more than $100 to do that.

He also didn't leave after the police were called, which is not all that unusual for someone who looks out their window and sees someone they're in conflict with has traveled across the country to stand in front of their door.

This is just needless YouTube drama generation. I agree, he should have paid a process server to do the job correctly, but that wouldn't be good business for his YouTube channel.

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usehand 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

In this thread you have admitted to not knowing basic facts about this case. Yet here you are pontificating on the merits. Are you affiliated with B&M? Maybe an employee or franchisee? Why do you feel so strongly you need to defend them?

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Aurornis 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Not affiliated with anyone. Please stop tracking my comments across this website to accuse me of being in some conspiracy.

I'm merely responding to a comment about this 3rd party getting involved and doing things for YouTube drama. He is neither affiliated with the person who lost the legos nor the corporate side.

Process serving should not be done like this, as the person above said.

Serving papers does not make someone free from charges of stalking, intimidation, or harassment. That's one of many reasons why spending $100 on a process server is a much smarter idea than traveling across the country to sit in front of someone's house after you've been engaged with a conflict with them.

	▲	usehand 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, it's possible the serving was not done correctly. Even in that case, this does not imply, as you have claimed, that this is "just needless YouTube drama" (emphasis mine). There is clearly a lot going on beyond the obvious flashy setting which is chosen for the presentation. Arguably, no attention would have come to this matter if not for such presentation, and the perpetrators would have just gotten away with it easily, so it is in fact understandable that things were done in such a way. Yet you choose to ignore the way more significant issues from B&M's side and focus only on the choices of dramatization of the events, which, if a problem at all, are only marginal in comparison. While further trying to use that a way to try to in fact discredit the more relevant issue.

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jasonlotito 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The company should have done the right thing, but instead, they are evil, criminals, and crooks who should be treated as such.

> he should have paid a process server

He was quoted a LOT more money to try.

> He also didn't leave after the police were called,

He was legally allowed to be there trying to serve the individual.

Why are you defending a clearly evil criminal company?

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Aurornis 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

> He was quoted a LOT more money to try.

Process serving is common. It's not more expensive than traveling across the country. You can Google the prices.

I'm not defending the company at all. My comment was about the YouTuber who got involved as a 3rd party for content production.

EDIT: To be clear I am not defending the company. My comments are about the YouTuber. There's an account below that has been accusing me of being in conspiracy with this company for some reason, but that is not true. That account is reminding me why I switched to using an anonymous handle on HN, though.

	▲	usehand 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> I'm not defending the company at all. My comment was about the YouTuber who got involved as a 3rd party for content production. Unless you are completely incapable of understanding basic human communication, this obviously amounts to defending the company.

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thevinter 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, the guy tried to resolve the legal dispute with lawyers and has been quoted multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees.