I don't agree at all for these coding models. Even the most anti-AI people from last year seem to be giving in to using them.

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zamadatix 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think there is an exception for tooling around the models/integrating the models with tooling. That seems to have been very well received in this last year.

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timbaboon 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My take from going through comments on HN is that many people are being mandated to use them, not that they are just giving in. Maybe I'm misreading, but that was my impression.

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perching_aix 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Both can be true, even for the same person.

For example, it's being pushed pretty hard where I'm at, though not quite on the tokenmaxxer level. I started skipping related meetings cause it was nauseating. I can only tolerate so many platitudes.

At the same time, I just used the ever living snot out of Opus 4.6 for hours, grinning like an idiot throughout. Automated a whole bunch of enterprise cross-system drudgery away.

Fairly constant over time as well. Expressed a similar sentiment not too long ago here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48154277

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dakolli 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Why are you people so stoked to replace labor? You're up next.

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perching_aix 3 hours ago | parent [-]

So much so that if you re-read my comment, you may notice that I was automating away exactly my own work there. Work that sucked and was grossly high overhead. It's just nice when things stop sucking, and even nicer when it doesn't require one to act a hero for that to happen. Not sure what else do you expect to hear.

Would you rather e.g. your doctor prioritized their wealth over your health? Popular conspiracy, but I'm not sure many health professionals follow in it. Not sure why you think this field would be much different. If this job is gone, it's gone. I can enjoy recreational programming on my own time, I don't feel entitled that my interest remains a money maker.

What worries me - and it does - is a further and accelerating shift in wealth (and thus capability) asymmetry. But for that, I look out for the performance and requirements of self hostable models instead, rather than reenact some sort of luddite, or lie to myself and others about the state of this technology.

If you want safety for country sovereignty, get a nuke. If you want safety for knowledge work, get a local model.

	▲	tripleee an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Having your career automated away and being okay with that is a massive luxury most don't have. The rest of us need an income to get by. If you look at the history of other people losing their careers to automation, the average person never gets even close to their previous peak.