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thegrim33 an hour ago

So, how this propaganda works is by presenting a false picture of reality by selective reporting.

Any time someone doesn't choose the US or moves away from the US, etc., or any time events can be remotely interpreted in that way, those stories will get submitted to and raised up to the front page of HN.

Any time someone DOES choose the US, or moves to the US, you will never, ever, ever, see a story about it on HN. They won't get submitted, and if they do, they won't get upvoted.

You only get shown the negative news that helps their agenda, and you never get shown the positive news that would hinder the picture of reality they're trying to place in your mind.

petcat an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Any time someone DOES choose the US

There are 1,000 of those everyday. They get caught by the spam filter because it would pollute the front page. The ones that don't choose USA are somewhat interesting, so they get through.

We want to see the 1% and talk about those.

steve1977 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can only tell you, as someone living in Europe, that there is a strong sentiment against the US at the moment. And this is new, at least in this magnitude. The US is not seen as a reliable partner anymore, but as a bully that sometimes cannot get avoided.

apercu an hour ago | parent [-]

Strong sentiment against the US (government) in the US as well.

I live in a purple state (also a Canadian citizen but that's beside the point).

jfengel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It sounds like you've shifted from hardware purchases to immigration there. The US is indeed still a very popular place to emigrate to, though mostly from poor countries, and it's working very hard to limit immigrants from those countries.

You could take illegal immigration as a sign that the US is a very desirable place to be. But Americans don't seem proud of that, and consider it an economic downside.

But TFA is about military hardware, and more generally about dependence on the United States. Are there any good-news stories there, with economic upsides? I think there were some about the UK, but I'm hard pressed to think of more. At most, the stories I hear are about continuing existing relationships, not forming new ones, and seem to be more about not wanting to go through the cost of changing than about feeling positively towards the US.

yoavm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The essence of the this story is still true: many non-Americans are choosing non-US tech/products/services whenever they're faced with an alternative. Living in Sweden I see it around me all the time, and this is something no one even thought about two years ago.

toasty228 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's the first stage of grief, four to go

AlexandrB an hour ago | parent [-]

My only source of grief as a Canadian is the dismal state[1] of my country and the bleak prognosis for the future[2]. The whole "elbows up" thing is a convenient sideshow to take attention away from our domestic problems.

[1] https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2026/05/apple-on-bill-c-22-this-...

[2] https://www.bcbc.com/insight/oecd-predicts-canada-will-be-th...

lfuller 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

While I completely agree with you on [1] and it's tiring to have to re-litigate this issue every few years, [2] was from 2021 and doesn't reflect Canada's current policies.

AlexandrB 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

Canada's current policies seem like a continuation of their previous policies. The only major change is the weakening of links to the US, which is likely to make the economy worse, not better. Even bill C-22 is a zombie bill from the Trudea era (C-63). Tech investment is still flat (nearing zero)[1], taxes are up, and 20% of the workforce have government jobs[2]. This country is cooked.

[1] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-venture-cap...

[2] https://thehub.ca/2025/12/08/canada-added-950000-government-...

afroboy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

May be you just come the conclusion that USA are the bad guys and and a lots of people hate them?

wat10000 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The fact that "man bites dog" gets reported while "dog bites man" does not is not propaganda.

Whose agenda do you think this is helping, exactly?

bfkwlfkjf an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Any time someone DOES choose the US, or moves to the US, you will never, ever, ever, see a story about it on HN.

That's because continuing as before is not a story. What a silly thing to say.

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pseudony an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, it is all a conspiracy.

Or. Have you considered that the erstwhile closest military ally of the US increasingly diversifying AWAY from US programs actually is pretty noteworthy. You have had canadians boycotting US products, cancel trips to the US, their PM encouraging elbows up attitude and delivering a pretty noteworthy speech in Davos about charting a course for middle powers and you think it’s business as usual?

lbrito an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

"Breaking News: the sky is blue today"