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kashunstva an hour ago

Canada has historically relied on a relatively stable trading relationship with the U.S. That relationship is a shambles. It remains to be seen how Canada retools itself; I imagine that we will see a blend of on-shoring and new trading sources. So it’s less of an issue of “can’t” and more “hasn’t (yet)”.

joering2 an hour ago | parent [-]

Frankly to me the fact Canada is "retooling itself" knowing well that this nightmare should be over in less than 3 years, and most likely next President will be a Democrat, but yet they keep retooling, means their strong (reliable?) assumption is that Trump Administration won't leave the office at all, similar to how Putin stayed in power in what arguingly is a Democratic Country.

data-ottawa an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The nightmare was supposed to be “over in 3 years” 9 years ago.

The foreseeable future is MAGA candidates with a coin flip odds of winning indefinitely.

tracerbulletx 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of people are still in denial about Jan 6th. They really tried to overthrow the election like actually in physical effect. Not hypothetically. They were trying to not certify the election and it came down to a hairs width. They're going to try to again.

gopher_space 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's a "people won't get tired of our good cop/bad cop bullshit because there's money to be made" attitude in the US that doesn't even reflect our own point of view.

They're retooling because it doesn't matter who the next president is.

celsoazevedo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is Trump's second term and MAGA views won't disappear 3 years from now. Even if they assume that there will be a peaceful and lawful transition of power, I can see why they may be planning on the assumption that the "instability" (from their point of view) will continue into the future.

joering2 an hour ago | parent [-]

I disagree. You literally have one single human being in charge of 3 main branches of government, and multiple smaller agencies. Noone will manage US like Trump does.

jleyank 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

Trump doesn't "manage" anything. Trump is "managed". The question is who all pull the strings.

SpicyLemonZest an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're missing some of the history here. Canada's initial free trade integration with the US in the late 80s was controversial at the time, with opponents specifically predicting a slow erosion of sovereignty until one day Canada is forced to subordinate itself to the US. What Trump showed is that that concern was correct, although the erosion was fortunately not yet complete enough to force Canada's hand. The Canadian people don't want to be continually dependent on the goodwill of future US Presidents; they want "Canada should the US" to sound like "Taiwan should join the US" or "France should join the US", an obviously impossible idea that even the most vehement partisans would have to explain away rather than trying to make it happen.

stuxnet79 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

As an addendum to this post, this debate between Turner and Mulroney over (what would become) NAFTA captures some of the feeling of the time [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jlvb9czZFXw

[2] https://www.c-span.org/program/international-telecasts/canad...

interviewitis 5 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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