Is anyone actually mad about this, or do people just bring it up to stir the pot? Who cares what the FAQ says? They've worked out a way to add it easily in a backwards compatible way that can solve some problems. They had not identified this solution at the time they wrote the FAQ, and Go has been perfectly usable without this feature for 16 years.

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tines 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not mad, I'm a proponent of stronger type systems. I'm just correcting the record about

> They didn't say they never wanted to do generics, but that they did want to take their time and do them right.

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the_gipsy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You just can never trust what the go team says.

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Matl an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah, because software is not meant to evolve and people are not meant to either.

	▲	the_gipsy 31 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You're not meant to gaslight about the evolution of software.

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stouset 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We care that time and time again, when anyone ever brings up a criticism of the language, they’re told that everything is just fine and it’s not a problem and we just don’t get the Go Philosophy. There’s not a problem, stop trying to make Go like every other language, and changing things would make the language more complicated and worse.

Then when the language is inevitably changed for the better, resolving the complaint, suddenly it was always going to happen and it was just a matter of getting the details right.

Every other language community I can think of is more than willing to acknowledge the shortcomings of their language. “Yeah, this kind of sucks in principle but it’s not something that gets in the way in practice” is a fine perspective. So is “this was a tradeoff; we went in this direction and these are the resulting downsides”. But the golang community practically trips over themselves to constantly argue that obvious shortcomings in the language are actually a good thing and we just don’t get it.

Nobody is saying the language shouldn’t improve. We’ve all been begging the language to improve. But we’re also tired of the constant, obvious, and shameless gaslighting from the community whenever things do get better. You aren’t going to like the comparison, but it’s extremely Trumpian.

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jaxlfkkgken 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

All the butt-hurt oracle trolls that roam hacker news are obviously jealous that a decent language has become more popular than java.