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jvanderbot 2 hours ago

What I hate about this whole thing, is that there are many reasons someone might reach out to a coworker with questions. Not all require the knowledge in fancy markdown with emojis.

Maybe they want to show respect to a person by asking their opinion before proceeding with a change

Maybe they want to share context and make that person aware of what they're thinking without being so obvious

Maybe they need _that person_ to provide some assurances directly because they are not confident in thier plan (see 1)

Maybe they are just in a rut and need to start a conversation with a person

Every use of AI for these robs the employee culture of a genuine trust building moment.

rickydroll 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I attribute people returning AI answers to a desire to feel valued and to feel that they contribute something to the person asking the question. But they are not self-aware or confident enough to understand that they should preface the AI response with:

"Interesting question, I asked Claude that question, and here's what I got for a response. Here's what I thought was interesting about Claude's response and what I think applies. What do you think?

LeifCarrotson 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

The problem is that most of the people in my circle who are returning AI answers to emails and chat messages do not understand enough about the topic to know whether a question is interesting or not, which parts of the response are interesting, and which parts apply.

They seem to think they've more or less solved the problem by posting an LLM's response to the issue or concern I've raised.

sumanthvepa 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

But why would ask these people about topics they don't understand? Or they sending you unsolicited responses?

voncheese 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Every use of AI for these robs the employee culture of a genuine trust building moment.

Spot on.

The erosion of communication and relationships between people in the workplace (or even outside it) that AI contributes to is something that we don't talk about nearly enough. Society today has already suffered greatly in these areas thanks to social media, and AI just makes it worse.

People (in general) are really struggling to understand when/how to use AI to be more productive and happier (and imo there is a way to do it, by offloading the grunt work to AI). With the constant rush and jamming of AI down everyone's throats though, its hard to be able to take that step back and think "is this use of AI making me happier/more productive".

azath92 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In a small team, or an aware team, where AI is being used all the time and we are figuring out the best way to do it, i often just preface my messages with

  - "from my ai to yours" where ive pointed my ai at some relevant context, and asked it to transform it for other ai context that a coworker needs
  - "my thoughts prettied by AI" where i just polished up my own words, often for outside coms, but indicating that i wrote the bones of it.
  - "i wrote this myself" in my case i tend to be very casual with my written coms, and ive been leaning into this in the past year rather than looking to correct it, as it gives the personal feel. but for cases where ive written more thoughtfully, i just flat out say that.
Now im not doing this rigerously, or obsessively, but i am finding it helps with exactly the kind of friction and erosion of trust that comes from reading things by ai as if i should treat it the same as a person and writing things as a person just to have it consumed and spat out again by an ai.

Helps my team is small. interested in how this could be translated to more widespread "company culture"

bauldursdev 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agree wholeheartedly. I have actually started introducing small idiosyncrasies into my text to make it clear that my words come from me and not a bot.

ToucanLoucan 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

I accomplish the same thing by saying "fuck" a lot. :D

FuriouslyAdrift 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

I've gone back to just calling people on the phone like a true savage.

MichaelZuo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m pretty sure the amount of care for fellow coworkers is normally distributed… so it makes sense the way below average just do that.

Heck the bottom decile would probably directly tell folks to pound sand if they could get away with it.

jvanderbot an hour ago | parent [-]

But "Go away I'm a curmudgeon" is an honest signal. Honest signals are required for a trust-based workplace. Whether you want a person to be a curmudgeon at work aside, knowing what they really are like and what they will do when you need something is foundational for trust.

AI washes that away. Everyone replies with AI voice, so nobody replies with honest signals, not the good / helpful folks or the curmudgeon unhelpful ones.

sinsudo 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know much about curmudgeon, but perhaps there are a group of those in HN that usually downvote just to perform their curmudgeon role. By HN rules they are invisible and can not be detected.

MichaelZuo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Well you should probably find a workplace that doesnt punish the “curmudgeons” for directly saying that.

I doubt that will become a widespread norm within this century at least.

AndrewKemendo 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

The people are answering with copy-paste AI are the curmudgeons trying not to get fired for being “hard to work with”

The workplace of the future is just fake nice and pretty people parroting whatever their google babelfish tells them to

limaoscarjuliet 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

EVery company that comes up with a product that brings a lot of gravy turns into place where people like this flourish. They have always been there - they would ask your question to many people, get their anwers and pass the response as their own.

Nowadays their job is much easier, just two copy pastes and lunch break.