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All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes(arxiv.org)
74 points by josefchen 5 hours ago | 25 comments
epsteingpt 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The work is very interesting. The title is misleading.

A better title would be: "all of human ingredients compressed into 1,800 primitives"

There is little to substantively nothing about the actual cooking: preparation methods, proportions, etc.

But the idea that tomato goes well with beef the whole world over is very interesting and useful for creating flavors that will go together, perhaps surprisingly. It will be a nice resource in the future.

CTDOCodebases 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you are interested in that you might want to check out this paper:

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep00196

leontrolski an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Neat.

I'm trying to compress recipes into little schematics https://leontrolski.github.io/recipes.html

michelb 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Nice! this reminds me of https://www.reddit.com/r/flowchartrecipes/ and the table view on the https://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/87/Carrot-Pulp-Ca... pages.

karhuton 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

These are amazing. It feels so clear to see a visual ”map” of the cooking process before you even start.

This would help coordinate two cooks to make prepping more independent.

I’m trying to figure out if an landscape Ipad, with interactive elements for extra details if needed, would be a good UI for this.

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Edit: Showed it to my non-Engineer wife and she said ”this is horrible” after staring at it for 10 seconds. Maybe not for everyone…

teeray 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like it. Reminds me a bit of the table format on Cooking for Engineers (scroll to the bottom of the recipe): https://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/19/Erics-Chocolat...

flobosg 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

I was going to say the same! You can also check the recipe card here: https://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/19/Erics-Chocolat...

mapipolo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I love this! I bet you could make a successful recipe book based on this concept, with large schematics that a cook can read from a distance while working in the kitchen.

NiloCK 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ahh - the dependency graph recipe card. These are excellent. I've imagined something like this forever. Always annoyed that recipes put ingredients in a giant undifferentiated list and then give an instruction like "mix the dry ingredients in a deep bowl".

For a while I expected there could be a good return on a good implementation of this, but now as soon as a strong interface itself is created it seems easy to copy.

gorgoiler 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

”To bake an apple pie from scratch, first you must create the universe.”

— Carl Sagan

InsideOutSanta 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's really neat and easy to parse, love it!

danielvaughn 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's amazing how much more readable this format is. I love it.

hkt 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

That is brilliant. Going to try some of yours then maybe transcribe my own favourites into the same format. You've struck on a great idea here.

1970-01-01 a few seconds ago | parent | prev | next [-]

11 sources is not "all of" anything. You have a sample.

Retr0id 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> [Claude] performed all ingredient classification under deterministic decoding (temperature 0–0.1)

Not that it matters much in this context, but low-temperature is not the same thing as deterministic.

cubefox 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yep. Zero temperature is neither necessary nor sufficient for deterministic inference.

cj 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

Why?

tempay 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

You can seed the randomness are still having nonzero temperature.

Numerical instability can introduce randomness especially on GPU like hardware unless you’re very careful about how you write your algorithms.

antirez 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Odd not including French and Italian recipes.

jweisbin 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"human cooking"? ewww

haaz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Published by Kaikaku, a London based startup doing automated restaurants and cooking

suddenlybananas 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't see why the title needs to be quite so grandiose.

muragekibicho 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's an appeal to the attention economy. "All of human cooking compressed into 2 MB" is(mentally) palatable relative to "Navigating the Emergent Geometry of Food Ingredient Embeddings".

Getting you to click is the ultimate goal.

delichon 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's a good title in that it says something interesting about the scale of knowledge needed for functional expertise in the domain. Like a big fluffy cat that's just a wee little cat inside the fur ball.

pfdietz 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Cooking condensed beyond the point of usefulness.

It's another book for Zach Weinersmith.