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kennywinker 5 hours ago

Because they do.

cryptoegorophy 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If water is the problem then why are we ignoring how much water beef needs? If we measure per person use it is hundreds times more than data center usage in comparison if we measure in per person consumption

kennywinker 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Beef uses water, but you can eat beef.

Ai uses water, but you can’t eat ai.

Can you see the difference?

no-name-here 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>> If water is the problem then why are we ignoring how much water beef needs? If we measure per person use it is hundreds times more than data center usage

> Ai uses water, but you can’t eat ai.

Almost all other foods don't use trillions of gallons of water like beef does. If someone's goal was to reduce water use, then shouldn't they be making at least as much noise about the non-necessary thing using far more water compared to data center's billions, not trillions, of gallons?

tptacek 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, that logic does not make any sense whatsoever.

etchalon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cows don't steal people's jobs.

DoctorOetker an hour ago | parent [-]

The loss of income of people displaced by AI may end up eating less meat to survive.

jmye 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is this a serious comment? No one, in an environmental discussion, ignores how much water beef needs. It’s a central part of most vegan/vegetarian commentary.

But this is a conversation about data centers. It would be great if you had the capability of staying even vaguely on topic instead of spinning off into “what about” bullshit.

no-name-here 4 hours ago | parent [-]

1. Beef uses trillions of gallons of water per year, while data centers use billions - data center water use is nowhere remotely as much as beef.

2. Despite beef using far more water, is it getting anywhere remotely as much coverage as data center water use?

3. Senators like Sanders proposed stopping data center construction nationwide - have senators proposed similar nationwide bans for beef?

hunterpayne 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You can go ahead and try to do that. Politically, to say its a DOA bill, is the understatement of the century. Also, water is renewable. This entire discussion is absurd and scientifically illiterate. There is a reason why nobody says, "party of science" anymore.

kennywinker 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Also, water is renewable.

Tell that to the aquafers we’re emptying that won’t refill for generations.

Water is renewable, but not necessarily in the right place or in timely manner.

Using treated potable water to cool servers is just taxpayers subsidizing server cooling.

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BenFranklin100 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not inherently they don’t.

kennywinker 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, but we don’t live in theory, we live in reality. Here in reality, they usually do.

alterom 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Inherently, they don't.

The way they are operated, they do.