| ▲ | akudha 7 hours ago | |||||||
“Extremely predictable payments” - I don’t own a home, so I don’t know about this - I have heard mostly horror stories about HOA. Can they hike maintenance fees arbitrarily? Also, what about insurance? Last I read, at least in FL, insurance cost is out of control, is that still true? | ||||||||
| ▲ | dghlsakjg 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
Don’t buy a home in an HOA and avoid living in a place with extreme high risk of property destruction. Neither are requirements of owning a home. HOA complaints typically are about control not really cost, and the terms are disclosed before purchase so not unpredictable at all, you are allowed to see the full financials and can see the financial health of the organization before committing. Insurance costs are directly correlated to risk, the costs are only as out of control as the risks (which are well known in Florida). E.g. if insurance expects to have to replace a roof every 5 years on average, and to replace a house every 30 years, expect to pay for 1/5th of a roof and 1/30th of a house in your insurance bill, on top of all the other risks. | ||||||||
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| ▲ | yardie 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
A HOA on a house never made sense to me. There are no amenities they provide worth what you pay. Condos in are different story. You're using shared resources in a limited space. Condos in a bustling urban core are great. A condo in the middle of the suburbs makes no sense. | ||||||||
| ▲ | technothrasher 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Real estate tax is also somewhat unpredictable year to year (except that it rarely goes down), and can be a large part of your monthly payment. We got hit with a 21% increase in taxes this year because the town voted to rebuild the high school and the main road. Luckily, at least, we don't have an HOA. Well, actually, we technically do, because we have a shared driveway with three houses on it, and legally here shared driveways are required to have an HOA. But all three of us despise HOAs, so it doesn't have any money, rules, meetings, or do anything. It's just on paper only. We have informal meetings to sort it out when the driveway needs maintenance. After just a couple meetings we figured out that meeting first, alcohol second is the correct order. | ||||||||
| ▲ | bloomca 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
HOAs can be very tricky, the money comes to maintain some shared amenities. Usually it is not too bad, but in case of condos HOAs maintain much more and sometimes the board makes very questionable decisions and can end up short on cash when big things are required, and that can hike the payments a lot. As for the insurance, the best advice is just to avoid high-risk areas like flooding zones. | ||||||||
| ▲ | strongpigeon 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
HOAs can be a big variable cost, yes, especially in the case of underfunded condos associations with a lot of delayed maintenance. Insurance can vary a lot, but is usually a much smaller amount than your mortgage payment (though I only have experience with the PNW). But yeah, for a single family home in a not-too-flood-prone area it'll be very predictable. | ||||||||
| ▲ | bigstrat2003 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
As others said, try to avoid HOAs if you can. But if you can't (in my area it's hard to do), our realtor gave us good advice when we were in the process of buying our current home. The HOA bylaws are a legally binding document as to what the association can and can't do, so if you're going to purchase a home in an HOA neighborhood, read the bylaws. That will give you confidence as to whether some of the situations you mention can occur. | ||||||||
| ▲ | bluefirebrand 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
I dunno about the USA, but for much of the world the answer is really simple: don't buy in places that have HOAs | ||||||||