| ▲ | georgel 7 hours ago |
| The circle is complete: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 |
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| ▲ | arealaccount 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Man HN was a different place back then. People sharing ideas and getting constructive (even if comically wrong) feedback. It reads more like founders and hackers helping each other. The discussions lately are more like folks armchair analyzing or speculating companies that are already incumbent tech giants. Or maybe I just click those headlines at a higher rate.. |
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| ▲ | brittlepeanut 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | malfist 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Says an account 13 minutes old. | | |
| ▲ | nathanmills 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Wow, that means 13 minutes ago must've been the first time they've ever used the site | |
| ▲ | antinomicus 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, what? Increasingly worried this site is bots talking to bots. |
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| ▲ | supern0va 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | And yet, it somehow has significantly better conversations than most places online. Maybe on par with reddit 10-15 years ago. It's frankly depressing how few places there are to have quality conversations, particularly for general tech. | | |
| ▲ | ricardobayes 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, although unfortunately the only problem with it, there's no way to contribute to older topics in a meaningful way. Due to the nature of this format not even the original author checks old comments and absolutely no chance any new conversation sparks out of it. | |
| ▲ | jsbisviewtiful 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > It's frankly depressing how few places there are to have quality conversations Yeah I used to learn so much across quite a few forums. Most of those communities are dead, dying, filled with bots or filled with people making shit up/just posting lousy jokes now. A lot of folks have jumped to Discord, which frankly, isn't for me, so feeling a bit lost on where to surf these days |
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| ▲ | sillysaurusx 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was user 315, back when it was possible to determine your user number via the public url feature. Is there anything this simple now? What I miss is being able to right click on an item, click "copy public URL", paste it into the browser, and get an exact copy of that item (with nothing else; no image overlays, no ads, nothing). In the limit case you should be able to use it as a webhosting service for static files, since visiting an html page in a browser serves that file and relative links are preserved. I guess it's a losing value proposition, but it sure would be nice. It's unfortunate the original demo video was lost to time. I remember how astounding it was. |
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| ▲ | al_borland 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > It's unfortunate the original demo video was lost to time. I remember how astounding it was. Is this the video you're thinking of? https://web.archive.org/web/20070407145348/http://www.getdro... | | |
| ▲ | sillysaurusx 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes. Holy crap, you actually found the original. There was a recording of a presentation Drew gave later on about Dropbox, but it wasn't as good. This is definitely the original. Thanks for the memories! |
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| ▲ | layer8 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > What I miss is being able to right click on an item, click "copy public URL", paste it into the browser, and get an exact copy of that item (with nothing else; no image overlays, no ads, nothing). That still works for me, when replacing dl=0 with dl=1 at the end of the URL (dl = download). | | |
| ▲ | sillysaurusx 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Unfortunately that downloads the file directly, rather than displaying it in browser, so it's not a very nice way of linking screenshots to someone. The other use case is an html file that contains references to images within the same folder, like <img src="foo.png">. You'd want it to display in the browser, not download the html page as a file. | | |
| ▲ | layer8 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ah, I see. But that usage is exactly why they don’t permit it anymore, it’s been abused too much. People were hosting whole sites on Dropbox, that’s not what it’s for. |
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| ▲ | tyler71 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | pcloud with the public folder works well. I've uploaded a few html ebooks with relative routing and it has worked fine. | | | |
| ▲ | jeffbee 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > right click on an item, click "copy public URL", paste it into the browser, and get an exact copy of that item You have described Google Drive. | | |
| ▲ | sillysaurusx 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not quite; it's not a direct link to the item. Put <img src="foo.jpg"> into an html file, alongside foo.jpg. In the original Dropbox, if you opened a link to the html file, you'd see a webpage that successfully rendered foo.jpg. So you could use it as a static file host. | | |
| ▲ | georgel 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | It was such a nice feature too, but very easily and quickly abused. |
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| ▲ | 1970-01-01 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It was quite a stupid and expensive ride, but they were vindicated, especially on point 3: >Our business is in a stronger position than it's been in years >What’s energized me most since joining Dropbox is the connection people have with our brand >It gives me a lot of confidence in what’s ahead for Dropbox All corporate fluff, no actual content. |
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| ▲ | urams 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Point 3 was not "'viral' or income generating" and DBX pioneered one of the most viral campaigns (give-get) and generates almost $1B a year in free cash flows? How is that vindication? | | |
| ▲ | 1970-01-01 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Their roadmap doesn't exist beyond their one-hit-wonder. CEOs are stepping down because there is no future for the company unless you count acquisition by Amazon or Google or Apple, which will result in the entire company being walked to the grave. | | |
| ▲ | urams 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | This is really a non-answer. If your point is "Dropbox is a struggling company and therefore all criticism of it ever is fully validated no matter the timeline" then any criticism of any company ever will be validated eventually which is absurd. |
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| ▲ | giancarlostoro 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is a darn shame, if the major OS providers didn't roll their own cloud storage, Dropbox could have been the default go-to across the board, and any other competitors that would have risen. |
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| ▲ | ADent 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | They were seemingly everywhere and lots of apps and services offered Dropbox as an option. 200 million users in 2013. Then they crippled the free plan and Apple and MS started pushing their services hard. And Dropbox seemed less ubiquitous after that. | | |
| ▲ | giancarlostoro 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I remember even Ubuntu had their own storage offering, which had they kept it going, I might have subscribed to to this day. Shame, would have been an easy way for Ubuntu to fund itself. |
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| ▲ | CSMastermind 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wow cool to see. |
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| ▲ | pikseladam 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| i didn't expect to laugh when i enter news today :) |
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| ▲ | ignoramous 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Daniel Gackle thinks BrandonM's is most probably the most misunderstood comment in news.yc history. from: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27067281 Other users have provided the link, but my heart sinks a little every time I see this brought up, especially when the commenter is singled out by name. People forget that this is a real person. He also happens to be a great HN contributor, and has been for many years.
I realize it's internet fun to point neon arrows at people seeming outrageously wrong in the past, but the truth is that people aren't reading that comment accurately and there's a huge dose of hindsight fallacy here.
When BrandonM wrote "I have a few qualms with this app", he didn't mean the software. He meant their YC application. (Note the title of Drew's post: "My YC App"). He wasn't being a petty nitpicker—he was earnestly trying to help, and you can see in how sweetly he replied to Drew there that he genuinely wanted them to succeed. We should be so lucky for all responses to "crazy new ideas" to be that decent. This community would be healthier, and actually the current thread is a standout example of how far from true it is.
The criticisms he was raising turned out to be a non-issue in hindsight, but were on point in 2007, when the idea of file synchronization was widely derided as a solution-in-search-of-a-problem which only technical users would ever care about, users who (as the comment pointed out) could already roll their own solutions. The idea had recently been publicly mocked in a famous blog post*, so it was on people's minds as the prime example of an idea only technical users would ever care about—and even YC funded Dropbox because they believed in Drew, not the idea.
* described at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23229275
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