| ▲ | anthonypasq 3 hours ago |
| if all these drivers are getting horribly exploited why are they doing it? |
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| ▲ | pipo234 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You might ask the same about any exploitive relation. Why is there prostitution? Why are slaves doing work for their masters? Why are children going through our garbage in some distant country, if they hardly earn enough to eat? |
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| ▲ | anthonypasq 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | i dont think the choice between driving Uber and working at Walmart is the same as being a slave or dying. | | |
| ▲ | pipo234 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | True, they are not the same. But they probably feel similarly coerced into accepting an unfair deal. So yeah, the comparisons are hyperboles, but I totally feel why they're upset and hope collective bargaining helps better their situation. |
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| ▲ | AirMax98 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's a bit like a payday loan — the drivers need money _today_ and effectively borrow against the depreciation of their vehicle. |
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| ▲ | twoodfin 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/jle/vol59/iss1/8/ Banning payday loans tends to shift borrowers to worse forms of credit. One imagines worsening the economics of ride share jobs will do the same. | |
| ▲ | scottyah 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not sure why you're being downvoted, this is what I've heard as well. It gets a person cash while they are in transitionary periods of time. There are not a lot of jobs you can get paid for almost immediately- most require startup time, training, applications, etc. |
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| ▲ | chalupa-supreme 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| All because you’re being exploited doesn’t mean you can’t voice your want to change things. Some of these workers might find that the only gig that they can rely on is ride share for various reasons. |
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| ▲ | twoodfin 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Various reasons necessarily include the successful business model of the ride share companies. |
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| ▲ | chimpanzee 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| To pay for tomorrow perhaps. |
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| ▲ | techteach00 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Food and shelter? |
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| ▲ | devindotcom 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| what a revealing question. why don't you ask one next time you're in a car? |
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| ▲ | anthonypasq 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I have, they mostly say they enjoy it, they can work when they want, scale up when they need more money, scale down when they dont, decent money etc. flexible, supplemental income. | | |
| ▲ | harmmonica 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'm asking this earnestly, do you ever follow up and ask if the added money/income offsets the additional wear and tear on their vehicles? Like do most of those folks you talk to understand the potential trade off? I would think the average rideshare driver understands that generally ("of course the added mileage decreases the value of the car!"), but I wonder how many folks take the time to quantify it, even roughly. Seems like a logical follow-up question when you're interviewing/making small talk with them. |
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| ▲ | darth_avocado 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why are children mining rare minerals in Africa? Why are workers handling toxic waste in the name of recycling in Bangladesh? Surely they can all work from home and leave their jobs if it’s that exploitative |
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| ▲ | shimman 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why do people that need money to live often work for companies that exploit them? Were you born in a vat yesterday or are you unaware that this is the entire modus operandi of capitalism? |
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| ▲ | anthonypasq 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | i dont think selling labor for money is inherently exploitative. its a two sided voluntary exchange. |
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| ▲ | onedognight 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I’d guess because most don’t correctly account for wear and tear and depreciation of their car when they do their mental profit calculation. |
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| ▲ | emceestork 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's definitely not because of this. They are not stupid. | |
| ▲ | anthonypasq 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | right, so the real answer is that all these poor immigrants are too stupid to realize they are losing money. lovely class solidarity there. |
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