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xzxz 4 hours ago

I used to choose Motorola devices for a long time but since 2 years when I bought Edge 30 Fusion I started to notice they automatically (without my knowledge) add 3 stupid apps or games about two times a month :/ There is no way to stop it. My kids phones are stuffed with this sh*t.

hypendev 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Motorola's history is so unfortunate.

They were a great brand, cool phones, one of early Android players.

After being bought out by Google, Motorola had some of the best devices out there with stock android, especially in the budget segment (and loved among android devs).They had one of the best smartwatches in the game at the time - Moto 360 (2014!!).

Then, after dropping the Nexus 6, Google stripped the patents and sold them to Lenovo. For a while it was ok, even dropping the relatively innovative Moto Z which had all the cool "modular" addons, played with it for a bit and seemed cool.

And then, things seemed to start taking a turn for the worse as Lenovo kept enshitiffying it more and more, using the brand name as a wedge in the market in which they are basically forgotten. They have the Razr brand which is cool, but the segment that was their best (budget phones) is now ruined with adware so they can extract every bit of value from it.

Such a sad ending for a company that was so early in the space.

xzxz 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

I have exactly the same feelings.

microtonal 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On some phones this is done by something like AppCloud, which you can usually uninstall from the user partition using ADB/Universal Android Debloater.

kotaKat 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Motorola put the malware apps into the “nondisable” list. You can’t remove them even with ADB PM commands.

GuestFAUniverse an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Or: buy another brand and not jump hoops.

microtonal 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Definitely, it's more that is worth trying for people who have a phone already. E.g. on Samsung, you can remove most of the bloatware.

edarchis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I got a prompt about trying new apps every week or something similar. The wording, the moment it prompted me were clearly designed for people to just say "ok" and then wonder how apps were installing regularly without any action. I got caught myself, disabled it but still got new app installs later. I killed the whole thing and have been free since. But definitely felt like a scam. And the apps suck.

xzxz 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is exactly what I noticed and were disappointed

brnt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are in luck: LineageOS supports many Motorola devices, including the Edge 30.

xzxz 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

In the past I often tend to replace stock Android with LineageOS but in today's world with so many attack vectors like for example malware in supply chains etc. I choose to stay with stock OS. I also have my bank apps and lot of my clients data/credentials stored on my accounts.

tredre3 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> There is no way to stop it.

There are ways. All the apps that install this crap can be disabled through Android's app manager, no fancy method required. (Of course updates can bring them back... But "luckily" Motorola isn't too keen on providing those for their products).

Some examples of the apps to look for:

- App Box

- Games

- MotoApps

- Moto App Manager

- Live lock screen

The active adware apps depends on your region and career. In some region Motorola doesn't push adware at all.

Personally by just disabling those (and similar sounding crap) I've never had adware sneakily installed.

For Moto G or lower tiers Edge I can begrudgingly accept that it's part of the deal... But I would be livid if they did this to my $1500 phone, which is why I refuse to risk getting a razr. Whether you want to fight your phone maker and keep using their product is up to you.

Let's hope that the grapheneos partnership plays off in our favor next year!

xzxz 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I tried to disable some of them but then, (not even) after OS update (sometimes after reboot) I noticed that they are active again.

SubiculumCode 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Strange, I've never gotten any moto apps on my cheap Moto G. I don't sign into any of their crap, but I don't recall doing anything else....

markjchambers 2 hours ago | parent [-]

How old is your Moto G?

Anything in the last few years has the moto app manager that force loads LinkedIn etc.

Due to cheap and cheerful with long lasting battery - I still buy Moto G - but setup offline and disable all these apps using https://github.com/Universal-Debloater-Alliance/universal-an...

KennyBlanken 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Luckily there is a mobile phone OS and hardware that isn't produced by the world's largest advertising company, and furthermore doesn't allow two different corporations to be involved in the core OS of the device.

microtonal 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I hope you are not referring to the company that is pushing AI ads through their system settings, pushing Creator Studio subscription ads through the formerly non-shareware productivity tools, and pushing movie ads through their wallet?

Seriously, get a Pixel and install GrapheneOS, or maybe a Fairphone with LineageOS.

tredre3 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're right but we can't easily get Huawei devices in North America.

yjftsjthsd-h 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple isn't the largest advertising company, but it's a pretty big one. The only other candidates I know of are aftermarket Linux distros, but they have their own problems.

layer8 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unfortunately, that company also polices what kinds of apps you’re allowed to install on your hardware.

pjc50 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

No, they only allow one corporation to be involved, which is not necessarily an improvement.