| ▲ | Kuyawa 7 hours ago |
| Horrible. I don't care if it was designed by Armani in his deathbed or Jony Ive himself. It's just horrible. The flat sides, not even reminiscence of the testarossa glorious days. Worse than the tesla truck and that's in the lowest levels of design. Be careful not to take the Jaguar road for there is no coming back. |
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| ▲ | anonym00se1 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It looks like a car by someone who used to design consumer electronics and spent only a cursory amount of time understanding automotive history, design, aesthetics, etc. Long live the Ivesmobile. |
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| ▲ | qingcharles 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| $600K Ferrari Luce vs. $35K Nissan Leaf: Spot the difference... https://imgur.com/a/fsvO5G8 |
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| ▲ | asgraham 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | My first impression when the Leaf image loaded was that you were being overdramatic. The Ferrari website created the impression of a similar but fundamentally more elegant car (not elegant, just more elegant). Then the Ferrari image loaded. Wow. It really is a game of spot the difference. A difficult game. edit: I don't want to reduce hypercars purely to their "Wow!" factor, but a huge huge part of their value is definitely the feeling they evoke when you see one out of the corner of your eye and your head snaps around. This Leaf/Luce side-profile similarity is completely antithetical to that "Wow!" factor. | |
| ▲ | amarant 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I do think the Luce looks a little bit better in that comparison, but I think that is also at least partially due to the photographer being way better. The black parts at the bottom of the Ferrari like like a shadow in that photo, whereas on the nissan it looks like black plastic. But I'm pretty sure that's a trick of the light more than anything. | |
| ▲ | gpderetta 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I wouldn't say it is pretty, but to me it looks nicer on this picture than on the Ferrari website. It is a very generic shape for sure! | |
| ▲ | shinycode 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Only the color is similar. Nothing else is otherwise you’ll start putting many cars in the same basket | |
| ▲ | cousin_it 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Huh? I know nothing about cars, but to me there's an obvious difference. If I saw the top car in the street, I'd say "wow that's nice"; while the bottom one just looks like a regular car. The top one looks like it went to the gym, the bottom one looks like it was puffed up through a straw. Idk if that justifies a 20x price difference, but that's my immediate reaction. | |
| ▲ | slaw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Judging by pictures only Ferrari should cost double of Nissan and 1/5 of this[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U9#/media/File:Yangwa... |
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| ▲ | Mistletoe 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’m so relieved to see this is the top comment. I was afraid I was going to see HN people saying how great this monstrosity looks. |
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| ▲ | MrBuddyCasino 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They made a Ferrari look asian. If it actually sells in China I‘m gonna be so mad. |
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| ▲ | crorella 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I had the same visceral reaction lol, so ugly. |
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| ▲ | bmitc 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oh, this is actually designed by Ive? It all makes sense now. He is a joke of a designer. I had thought people had stopped giving him work. This car has absolutely ZERO life to it for any manufacturer, much less a Ferrari. |
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| ▲ | smotched 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I believe he only designed the interior | | |
| ▲ | panos_news 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "In a genius move, they hired design agency LoveFrom to handle the exterior and interior execution: that’s headed by former Apple chief design officer, Sir Jonathan Ive." | | |
| ▲ | fps-hero 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, we finally got to find out what an Apple car would have looked like. |
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| ▲ | F7F7F7 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | His firm did the entire car. Inside and outside. | | |
| ▲ | simondotau 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s another 24 carat gold Apple Watch. Makes sense in the design studio, if you have some insane blinkers on when it comes to how people associate with and interact with products in the real world. |
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| ▲ | niobe 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In software we have an enshittification problem. In industrial design we have a generification problem. |
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| ▲ | stackghost 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Buttons for turn signals. Yuck. God, Jony Ive is such an insufferable person. |
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| ▲ | solenoid0937 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think you simply haven't seen the light. Here, perhaps his $4800 lantern can help: https://www.balmuda.com/lovefrom-balmuda/ | | |
| ▲ | ragazzina 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The lanyard is.. plastic. They could have said it uses the most exquisite handwoven linen (this thing is never seeing seawater anyway) and they chose polyester. | | |
| ▲ | pbalau 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > this thing is never seeing seawater anyway I can definitely see these used as lighting devices on luxury boats. |
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| ▲ | qingcharles 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The hell..! I honestly like Ive as a designer, but dear lord. |
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| ▲ | OliverGuy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ferrari have had indicator buttons in all their cars since about 2010 | |
| ▲ | gpderetta 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Haven't Ferrari used buttons for turn signals for a while? | | |
| ▲ | stackghost 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not sure. I've been in a few Ferraris and they all had regular stalks. It's possible that those buttons are not Jony Ive's doing, but I still find him insufferably pompous. | | |
| ▲ | netsharc 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What's the point of this refutation, a quick Internet search would've shown you that there are Ferraris with buttons to activate the blinkers... |
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| ▲ | komali2 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It doesn't matter if it's ugly, it doesn't matter that the cyber truck is ugly, it doesn't matter if either are good cars. I spotted probably the only cybertruck in Taiwan the other day. It was waiting to turn on a busy road, and people were jogging over to take a picture of it. "Woah cool! Awesome! Handsome!" Lots of stuff like that being said. People share ai slop cat pictures on Facebook. There's HN commenters, there's the subset of HN commenters smugly criticizing all the very obvious flaws of things like this... And then there's just the entire rest of the world which simply does not give a shit. |
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| ▲ | King-Aaron 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I have this observation with the influx of soulless SUVs on the road.
Every car group you see are always screaming out for manual, rear drive sports cars at an affordable price, but the majority of consumers just want a cube of car that has wheels and can go places.
And they buy a new cube every year or two to keep up with the Joneses. Everyone then complains that the automakers aren't making what they want... But the blame isn't with the manufacturers, the blame rests with consumers and how mindlessly apathetic they are to... basically everything. | | |
| ▲ | carsareok 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm one of those people that doesn't care for cars. They are equipment to me. I like "getting places", yes. But I don't like "personality" in my tools. Cattle, not pets. I don't want to drive around looking smug in my 650k shit bucket. Cars are an enormously wasteful, idiotic drain on the world, but the calculus is such that I am "forced" to own one. I find the idea that each of us is owning and maintaining our very own special little box that exudes "personality" preposterous and I'll bet the farm that future generations will think we were mental. This is not apathy in my opinion. This is rational. Cars are just tools. Metal boxes to enable mobility. Car people have turned them into this cult of personality that I think is batshit insane. It's not just cars mind you, we do this with watches, shoes, you name it and it's all very peculiar, but cars are my pet peeve because they are so obviously wasteful and dangerous. Not just directly like killing 40k per year in the US alone, but also through obvious geopolitics. People want to move around and they want to smile smugly and think they are better than others. Those two things are pretty much universal. I say we separate those issues. You can move around all you want but smiling smugly you do in some other way than in your "car". We'll have really good public transport and you'll assert your dominance in some other fashion. I personally recommend we reintroduce dueling to the death. By the way I don't know anybody that would buy a new car every two year to keep up with the Joneses and I live in a pretty "Jonesy" place. That's a bit hyperbolic at least in my neck of the woods (Netherlands). Most people here keep their cars until they become unreliable. | |
| ▲ | komali2 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Seems like chicken and egg. Buyers buy what's for sale, I feel like "the consumer" and "the market" are blamed for decisions made by people within these companies. We treat these people as forces of nature: "if the market tells them to make suv cubes, they'll make SUV cubes, they have no choice, their hands are tied!" But that presumes 1. that they're correctly interpreting consumer desire, 2. that consumer desire can even be determined at all from the market, 3. that consumer desire isn't being smeared into an averaging amalgamation that looks ugly and stupid to everyone. | | |
| ▲ | King-Aaron 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I do think about this a lot. Kind of like newspapers saying 'bad news sells', while they are also the ones deciding what news will be consumed. |
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| ▲ | sssilver 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The Cybertruck isn't ugly. It's gorgeous. You may not like its particular aesthetic, however that doesn't make it ugly. It's executed extremely well for the aesthetic it's going for. | |
| ▲ | Ekaros 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Difference is that cybertruck is in the purposefully ugly category. Even if it could have been done lot better. This one is not supposed to be ugly. If you want ugly you need to properly lean into it. Cybertruck at least attempted that. | |
| ▲ | hvb2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | When you're putting down this much for a car, you have options... I don't think this will be on the top of the list. So the rest of the world not caring doesn't matter as the audience for this is probably a million people at best | |
| ▲ | csomar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > It doesn't matter if it's ugly, it doesn't matter that the cyber truck is ugly, it doesn't matter if either are good cars. The cybercar turned out to be a massive failure though. So, it kind of mattered? | |
| ▲ | __m 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | subset of hn commenters? The cybertruck is widely ridiculed, also in taiwan. | | | |
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