| ▲ | eclipxe 3 hours ago | |||||||
Do you know how to operate a punch card? | ||||||||
| ▲ | merlincorey 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
Yes, and IBM has current documentation if you need to that has been updated in 2026: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.2.0?topic=considerations-u... It's generally and simply an encoding of what amounts to binary machine code which you translate via assembly code acting as a deterministic compiler from assembly to machine code if you are doing it manually. LLMs aren't a deterministic process and human languages aren't as clear as machine code and assembly. | ||||||||
| ▲ | natebc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Yes. But Python isn't punch cards behind the scenes so it's not the same thing at all. Besides. You're not asking <AGENT OF THE WEEK> to produce punch cards to jam into the PDP. | ||||||||
| ▲ | eric__cartman 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
If I transported you to the 1960s and gave you a wizard that could punch cards for you with a chance of making a mistake, would you still bother to learn how to operate a punch card? What would you do if the wizard gets stuck? Coarse the wizard into making the black box work through somebody else's direct perspective on the problem? | ||||||||
| ▲ | CharlieDigital 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I don't think this is comparable. It's more like a restaurant. You give an order and a little while later, a finished dish appears. The difference between a Chipotle and a Michelin starred establishment is that Chipotle is just assembling a mass produced good. A Michelin chef knows their ingredients inside and out; knows the science of how those ingredients work; knows varied techniques to extract flavors, create textures, etc. Anyone can work in a Chipotle; few can achieve a Michelin star. | ||||||||
| ▲ | wpollock 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
> Do you know how to operate a punch card? I remember! You created a control card, with tab stops and other controls, wrapped it around a control drum, and then had an easy time punching your source FORTRAN! I just looked and found my old control drum, in the back of my junk drawer. But I can't find an old punch card machine in there, most have lost it somehow. | ||||||||
| ▲ | jhide 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Do you maintain a system in which punch cards play a critical role? | ||||||||
| ▲ | ares623 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Do you let your Jenkins re-inference your entire program from markdown files on each push? | ||||||||
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| ▲ | throwaway613746 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
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