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zeroCalories 2 hours ago

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zarzavat 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Young children should be supervised when they access the internet.

Adolescents are not going to be defeated by such easily bypassed technical measures.

These laws are a trojan horse for control of the adult population. The relative anonymity and freedom of the internet is a threat to those who spend their lives seeking power over others.

zeroCalories an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes, the point is that pedophiles should be afraid to act on their urges

big85 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A better question - how do you imagine age verification is going to protect children from being groomed? Age verification will force services to assume everyone is a child until proven otherwise. Now it will be harder to tell adults and children apart online. Next, adult content will be harder for adults to acquire, pushing people into black markets, where illegal content will be easier to find.

I appreciate that people are concerned for their children, but we can't keep signing away basic rights and freedoms just to allay parents' anxiety for another few years.

konmok 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are so many low-hanging fruit to choose from if you want to protect children online, so it makes zero sense to start with the option that deprives every adult of their rights.

lynndotpy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When I hear that people own cameras, what I hear is that people are okay with children being harmed for the sight convenience of the freedom to create photographs. Let's just be honest about how we're calculting things: You think living without a camera, which is how humanity has lived for 99% of its existence, is worse than children being groomed.

zeroCalories an hour ago | parent [-]

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JoshTriplett an hour ago | parent [-]

> We certainly need surveillance, but it should only come from official sources.

I hope you are never, ever in a position to set any kind of societal policy.

zeroCalories an hour ago | parent [-]

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JoshTriplett an hour ago | parent [-]

Your false dichotomies, loaded questions, and attempts to tar others who disagree with you do not interest me, and I'm not going to engage with them.

I repudiate your statement that "We certainly need surveillance".

SilverElfin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you are worried about your children, keep them off the internet. Don’t rob society of its right to privacy and anonymity and speech.

tverbeure 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why don’t you start by explaining how an age verification at the start of a Linux installation help against children being groomed?

keernan an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have 7 grandchildren with the oldest being 10. My daughters are very strict about not providing their kids with devices that have internet access. The only one of the 7 who has a phone has a flip phone with no internet access. There simply is no reason to provide young children with access to the internet.

zeroCalories an hour ago | parent [-]

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dang an hour ago | parent [-]

Please don't perpetuate flamewars, as you've done (quite badly) in this thread. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Note this one:

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

convolvatron 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

any solution that depends on everyone agreeing on what content is age appropriate is a bad solution.

HDThoreaun 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

dame libertad o muerte

canelonesdeverd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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