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andrewstuart 2 hours ago

Do VPNs pay retail ISPs for exit points?

TkTech 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, not usually. Few ISPs are willing to risk blacklisting.

Just like scrapers (and a lot of VPNs are quietly using their custom VPN clients to sell your own IP [and data] to scrapers) it's mostly a "don't ask don't tell" situation for IP sourcing. You use a multitude of IP providers and if a scandal happens you just say "We didn't know!" and move on to the next. Almost always grey-market, very rarely through legitimate providers.

tiffanyh an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I see DataPacket.com have VPN clients.

Does anyone know if this is any issue for non-vpn users of datapacket.com?

https://www.datapacket.com/case-study/nordvpn

gruez an hour ago | parent [-]

>Does anyone know if this is any issue for non-vpn users of datapacket.com?

Probably not that much worse than other VPS providers with trashed IP reputations, eg. digital ocean, vultr, ovh. If you're blocking bots, the first thing to block is any datacenter ip ranges, not just known VPN servers.

r_lee 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

why is this downvoted? I'm not aware of a single ISP that would willingly let VPN providers use their ip blocks for their exit nodes

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dtech 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not retail ISPs, but many extensions and free VPNs route VPN traffic through the connections of those who use them.

joxdosba 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This isn’t correct, the residential IPs are a completely separate and vastly more expensive product.

giobox 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

One such extension, https://www.tuxlervpn.com/faq/:

> Will other users of tuxlerVPN be able to connect using my IP address?

"When you use our free residential VPN, you automatically agree to add your IP address into the community pool. This means that you are trading your own IP address in return for the ability to connect via the IP addresses of other users. You can opt out of this by purchasing our premium subscription; once you upgrade to the premium version, your IP address will be removed from our community pool."

preinheimer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, most “residential proxy” providers are selling access to hacked devices, or sneaky plugins

https://medium.com/@xianghangmi/resident-evil-understanding-...

Technical paper: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8835239