| ▲ | Maarten88 4 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Any competitive sailor or foil-racer knows that the underwater surface has the least friction and best laminar flow when sanded with fine-grid sandpaper, around 1000 to 1500 grid. It always surprised me that this was not true in air and airplane wings were supposedly best when glossy. So now it turns out that this is indeed not true, and airfoils also benefit from micro-roughness for lowest friction. Now the surprising question to me is how is it possible that something so simple was not known in this very well-researched and well-funded field. It probably was known, just not by the paper-publishing researchers. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | otterdude 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The core tenant of the paper is that roughness reduces drag IN the transition zone. A very small region of the total flow. Thats the region between laminar and turbulent flow. Laminar flow is typically 5x less drag than turbulent, and will be encountered about a Reynolds number of 500K-1M (ratio of inertial flow to viscous flow). Surfboards will have a Reynolds number of 10^7 which is entirely turbulent. A Cessna aircraft will have a Reynolds number of 1-5x10^6. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | aeternum 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I wonder how quickly airlines will adopt sanded/rough wings. It's also interesting that the efficiency of winglets were known for quite awhile but only somewhat recently have nearly all airliners adopted them. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | dilawar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> and airfoils also benefit from micro-roughness for lowest friction. I thought this was known to some extent that smooth surfaces are not always the best e.g. golf balls have dimples on them? No? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | colordrops 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah I'm pretty sure I remember reading something in a pop science magazine 20 or 30 years ago when MEMS nano structures were all the rage and how they were gonna use mass arrays of them on airplane wings to somehow increase flow | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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