> And if I were ever have to have kids, you can’t hire a maid here sleeping at your apartment and you have to clean yourself which is ridiculous.

Not sure if serious.

If serious: This is a really weird and almost sociopathic thing to say. I really don't get where you're coming from. It's certainly not the cultural direction I'd like to see Australia moving in.

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shell0x 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You realize this is the standard in Asia right? They only cost like 2.5k a month which is pretty good value

https://www.life.gov.sg/guides/domestic-helper

https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/visas/foreign_domestic_...

	▲	BLKNSLVR an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		OK, just seems weird from my cultural experience, and the way I was reading your comment it sounded 'entitled' (likely due to the cultural difference). Describing it as "pretty good value" bothers me in a number of contexts. I'm also fine with this never becoming a thing in Australia. Not sure how out-of-touch or in-touch that makes me, but that's how I feel nonetheless. @Loocid, thanks for saying what I was dancing around.
	▲	Loocid an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Its too close to slavery for my liking. Yes they are paid but 2.5k per month is very low for Singapore, they rely on you for shelter, and are very likely from much poorer neighbouring countries that are trying to support family back home. The whole power dynamic is extremely exploitable which results in a lot of abuse cases.