so in order to increase our median intelligence, we should make the process super easy?

anon84873628 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Obviously those smart people are going to go where they feel welcome, rather than climbing through obstacles designed purely for humiliation and malevolence.

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unethical_ban an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes.

Why should immigration be kafkaesque? It is in the US interest to have a pipeline of smart, hard-working, innovative people come to this country. The US is/was in many ways a great country for them to come, but we are not the only international destination for such talent. Why would we want to put up such artificial barriers to entry, if we agree on the premises I laid out?

The purpose of this is to discourage legal immigration.

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jerkstate 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

So what prevents the incompetent and lazy from immigrating?

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solenoid0937 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Someone immigrating is almost certainly less incompetent and lazy than the median American. Immigration requires uprooting your entire life, and it requires entrepreneurial spirit and grit. That's why many immigrant groups dramatically out-earn American-born citizens.

TBH most immigrants I've met better embody the American spirit than most Americans.

	▲	jerkstate 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		What about the immigrant groups that don’t dramatically out-earn American-born citizens?

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unethical_ban 4 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Asking basic questions about finances and job searches/security, perhaps? Do you have any original ideas or assertions to make, or do you only ask sealioning questions?