| ▲ | dylan604 2 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Having doors flying off one of your planes and engine failure causing part of the cowling to bust a window and sucking a passenger out of another is definitely not a bit of politics. Nevermind the bullshit 737Max nonsense. At this point, I'd imagine any Boeing orders left are only in place because Airbus can't keep up. Politics didn't need to come within 10 miles of this decision. It's just the free cherry on top. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | stouset an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The engine that failed on the Southwest flight was a CFM International CFM56, which has also been used on multiple Airbus planes including the A320. The engine itself as well as the containment mechanism that’s supposed to prevent this kind of situation were the responsibility of CFM and had nothing to do with Boeing. This could just as easily have happened on an A320. This example only serves to highlight how popular narratives take hold and get reinforced by laypeople. Boeing absolutely deserves to be raked through the coals over MCAS, over their deteriorating engineering culture, and over regulatory capture. But blame them for the things they actually carry responsibility for. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | 866-RON-0-FEZ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If we're stringing random facts together to try and make a point, Airbus was found guilty two days ago of manslaughter in the 2009 Air France crash that fell into the ocean. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czd2qmdvmq6o It's the same airplane as the MRTT, A330. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Retric an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Incidents that are over five years old have minimal impact in terms of current competition between Boing and Airbus. The airbus A320 family is associated with 1,490 fatalities, there’s just a vast number of flights daily so tiny risks add up. Companies buying new aircraft care far more about maintenance to fuel efficiency than a few rare incidents due to already corrected issues. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | rootsudo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No, majority of Boeing orders to foreign countries use USA backed loans or is a significant part of pushing US interests in the world. The message here, and it’s granted if you’re not aviation, finance or political aware is Italy keeping their aviation sector EU based being In the EU themselves and most likely getting tremendously better financing. While the Boeing incidents you mentioned are unfortunate and a true consequence of engineering culture eroding at Boeing, it does not dispel the true safety of aviation in general nor the high success of the 737 Max. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | shevy-java 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah - the mass casualties with regards to Max, changed things a lot. Boeing used to be about enginering; that quality dropped indeed decades ago. Not sure why or how. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||