Garmin can be used completely offline?

AFAIK, they even have some watches with no radio hardware so that they can be used in sensible environments.

allthetime 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yup. It’s a bit of a pain, but you don’t have to use the connect app. Devices and data can be accessed with direct USB connection as standard storage. You will lose some features and I think firmware updates become difficult (or impossible?)

	▲	nextos 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I think firmware updates and even map routes can be uploaded offline by mounting the watch as a USB mass storage device? I wish Casio, Polar, Suunto and others provided this functionality. There is some community software for Polar that enables offline data exchange, but it is a bit hacky, and OFC no firmware updates. Suunto used to have a really good offline solution, but they discontinued that and moved to the cloud.
	▲	mikestew an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Go through the Garmin Express desktop app for firmware updates. I’m probably missing something, but I can’t think of anything you lose if you don’t use the phone app.

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BenFranklin100 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I believe they can be used offline, at least the last time I used Garmin I was able to set it up such that I could sync it to Golden Cheetah. It took some jumping through hoops and an older watch version to get it work, as I recall. For serious runners and hikers, the hardware is better than Apple.

I'm only a casual fitness tracker so the Apple Watch fits my needs better.