The "15 minute city conspiracy" (anti bike lane, anti mass transit, car = liberty) people sure seem to gloss over inconvenient facts like this.

Frankly I don't see a way out from this. Since you must register and insure your vehicle and have a government license to drive it and it hauls two tons at 80mph, it seems like natural creep for the government to know where it is, and the tech to infer it without explicitly scanning plates is only getting better and better.

Maybe having just one euro/asian-style dense city with bike lanes in the US wouldn't be such a bad thing to try out?

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gottorf 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Maybe having just one euro/asian-style dense city with bike lanes in the US wouldn't be such a bad thing to try out?

What do you call Manhattan? It would count among the ~10 most dense cities proper in the world.

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hombre_fatal 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US only has Manhattan because it's grandfathered in from the 60s. It's not a free market for density.

- 30% of it is historical district that is basically frozen.

- Wastes surface space with 300k curbside parking.

- 75% of streetscape goes to cars, apparently bike+bus is <1%.

- Still has the same silly zoning issues that plague other cities.

I could go on but I don't want this to explode into more of my YIMBY hobby horse.

The momentum in NYC has made strides lately which is cool to see. But I'd like a US city to experiment with something less car-/nimby-brained. Until then, it's more sensible to live abroad, which feels ridiculous in a country as big as the US.

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throwaway85825 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Manhattan is a fragile and hellish dystopia with fading relevance.

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