| ▲ | __MatrixMan__ an hour ago |
| Yes, but it is a social contract governing things that can't be easily copied. We desperately need better social contracts which help us deal with data-about-me and data-i-created, but neither of those align very well with property. |
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| ▲ | WarmWash an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| I own paper money that is pretty easy to copy and worth far more than the paper it's on... |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > but it is a social contract governing things that can't be easily copied I think it’s fair to argue this makes data something that should not be able to be owned. But saying it can’t be owned is plain wrong. |
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| ▲ | __MatrixMan__ 25 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You're right. We can implement social contracts however we please. But regarding the particular implementation as codified in US law (and I think elsewhere also), property rights do not extend to data. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > regarding the particular implementation as codified in US law (and I think elsewhere also), property rights do not extend to data Maybe not in general, though I’m curious for a source. Practically speaking, what separates data and information is a necessarily subjective exercise. And information absolutely can be property. | | |
| ▲ | __MatrixMan__ 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | What kind of source would satisfy you? There are laws about what happens to me if I break into your house and steal your property. I can therefore find you case precedent indicating that a TV is property because people have been charged with violating those laws when they steal a TV. But I can't present to you the absence of such a thing. We have trademark, copyright, and patent law, but as far as I'm aware there's no crosstalk with things that talk about property, things like armed robbery. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > What kind of source would satisfy you Any lawyer making this argument. > I can't present to you the absence of such a thing I’m asking why you’re saying data theft isn’t codified under U.S. law. |
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