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__MatrixMan__ an hour ago

Yes, but it is a social contract governing things that can't be easily copied.

We desperately need better social contracts which help us deal with data-about-me and data-i-created, but neither of those align very well with property.

WarmWash an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I own paper money that is pretty easy to copy and worth far more than the paper it's on...

__MatrixMan__ 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

Easier to copy than a bit?

JumpCrisscross 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> but it is a social contract governing things that can't be easily copied

I think it’s fair to argue this makes data something that should not be able to be owned. But saying it can’t be owned is plain wrong.

__MatrixMan__ 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

You're right. We can implement social contracts however we please.

But regarding the particular implementation as codified in US law (and I think elsewhere also), property rights do not extend to data.

JumpCrisscross 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

> regarding the particular implementation as codified in US law (and I think elsewhere also), property rights do not extend to data

Maybe not in general, though I’m curious for a source. Practically speaking, what separates data and information is a necessarily subjective exercise. And information absolutely can be property.

__MatrixMan__ 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

What kind of source would satisfy you?

There are laws about what happens to me if I break into your house and steal your property. I can therefore find you case precedent indicating that a TV is property because people have been charged with violating those laws when they steal a TV.

But I can't present to you the absence of such a thing. We have trademark, copyright, and patent law, but as far as I'm aware there's no crosstalk with things that talk about property, things like armed robbery.

JumpCrisscross 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

> What kind of source would satisfy you

Any lawyer making this argument.

> I can't present to you the absence of such a thing

I’m asking why you’re saying data theft isn’t codified under U.S. law.