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vlucas an hour ago

Sam didn't "win" the case in the sense that most people will think of when reading this headline.

In the 20th paragraph of the linked article, finally getting to the actual reason:

> On Monday, the jury took only two hours to reach its verdict. Musk’s complaint, the panel found, had indeed exceeded the statute of limitations

Musk is appealing. This fight is far from over.

lokar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

What is the substance of the appeal? IANAL, but AIUI, it's pretty hard to appeal a finding of fact from a jury.

WarmWash an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's rare that judge's overturn jury verdicts, compared to other judge's verdicts. The constitution leans a lot on jury verdicts, and judges tend to respect that.

dathinab an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

or it is pretty much over before it even began, because he sued way too late...

nashashmi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lawsuit filed in 2024. Too late for it. AI boomed in 2023. And elon exited in 2021. I hate to say it but Elon lost. And we all lost.

choilive 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

What do you mean? Pandoras box has already been opened. Even if OpenAI disappears, there will be another one to take its marketshare. The tech is too useful to die

kryptiskt an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That Musk couldn't even get over the first stumbling block which is the statute of limitations, does not make the win any lesser. It makes it more decisive, since Musk now has to overcome that hurdle before even having a shot at the meat of the case.

ScoobleDoodle an hour ago | parent [-]

I think parent probably means winning on merit or a sense of justice. As in won for a deserved reason rather than a technicality. The technicality here is exceeded the statute of limitations.

A win in any manner isn’t landing the same for observers as winning for a just reason.

epistasis 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

There is no "sense of justice" that will sway an appeal, it's all about the law. And this jury just found that there was zero merit under law.

Appeals are for finding legal technicalities or edge cases. They do not overturn findings of fact from a jury.

That is, it used to be that way in the US, when the courts were ruled by law. In the modern US, the Supreme Court is a partisan political body, so perhaps people are confident it will get overturned because Musk is now political enough for the Supreme Court to give Musk personal favors for all his massive political contributions.

That sort of rank corruption is the only reason to be confident that Musk could ever win this silly case.

epistasis an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This case should have never made it to a jury, there is no case here.

The judge was cowed by Musk's fame to even bring this to trial, I think. It's an example of how the justice system works differently for this with more wealth and power. There is no case, just massive ego from a person with massive wealth.