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cassianoleal 2 hours ago

What about all the other games with malware, like Denuvo and similar?

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nosioptar 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Gog.com only sells games without DRM.

Most games on itch.io are not DRMed.

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giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I recommend installing Linux. If it wont play on Linux even with Proton, you shouldn't give them a single penny.

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freedomben an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I agree, although I've made exceptions for a very small number of games with Denuvo (actually, just Hogwarts Legacy, which in hindsight I'm glad I did even though it still hurts my soul a bit) and they can run on Linux (I have nothing else but Linux). It's mostly kernel-level anti-cheat that won't run from what I've read.

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giancarlostoro an hour ago | parent [-]

If it plays on Linux I don't personally care if its got Denuvo, its isolated by Proton, so not really a big deal. I do think its really pointless, because none of these tools ever truly stop game cheating.

	▲	freedomben 28 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Oh yeah completely agree. They don't even stop warez either as it only takes a little while for it to be broken. Mainly all it does is punish paying users, and cost them sales (from people like me) who don't want the potential headache.

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fleroviumna 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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7bit 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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nekzn 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"drm is malware" is so 2005.

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4chandaily an hour ago | parent | next [-]

"We have to stop the nazis" is so 1940s.

"Congress is engaged in a witch hunt" is so 1950s.

"Civil rights should be applied to everyone" is so 1960s.

"Fossil Fuels are destroying the plant" is so 1970s.

"Unregulated free trade is dangerous" is so 1980s.

"The police are out of control and unduly target minorities" is so 1990s.

Something being old doesn't make it less relevant or important.

It means we need to say it louder, because for some reason the point hasn't been made clearly enough yet.

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nekzn an hour ago | parent [-]

We saw you, here are your lefty points.

	▲	nosioptar 22 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Dude, nothing they said had anything to do with left handedness...

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freedomben an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Every day there are new people coming online and/or of age who weren't aware or even alive in 2005. They too need to know that DRM is malware.

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wanzg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"rootkits are malware" is in fact eternal.

	▲	blueg3 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Usually when people complain about Denuvo, they're talking about Denuvo Anti-Tamper, which (perhaps surprisingly) is not a rootkit.

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mschuster91 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, Riot Games just today (!) admitted to hard-bricking cheating hardware [1]. This kind of stuff definitely is malware, and your comment aged like milk.

[1] https://videocardz.com/newz/riot-games-on-valorant-dma-cheat...

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nekzn an hour ago | parent [-]

You are confusing drm with anti cheats.

In any case, good for Riot, and good especially for their players!

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matheusmoreira 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

No confusion at all. Same unacceptable "we own your machine now" nonsense.

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john_strinlai an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

anti-cheat is not perfect. they will brick a legitimate user's pc. that is the opposite of "good for their players".

and even if someone is cheating on a riot game, bricking their pc is obviously fucked, and will end up biting riot in the ass (i.e. not good for riot, either).

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Rohansi 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

Which anti-cheat has bricked users' PCs? The Riot example above specifically targets DMA cards (cheating hardware) which no legitimate user will have.

	▲	john_strinlai 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		>Which anti-cheat has bricked users' PCs? the one we're talking about, where riot tweeted "congrats on your $6k paperweights". >The Riot example above specifically targets DMA cards (cheating hardware) which no legitimate user will have. you can play league/valorant legitimately, be using dma for whatever else, and apparently riot will still gladly brick your pc. you apparently don't even need the games currently installed! if you have vanguard leftover from months ago when you did play, remove all the games, and then decide to tinker around with dma for fun/learning/who cares, riot will still come after you, despite not even playing their games. even if that seems unlikely, refer back to sentence #2 of my comment: "and even if someone is cheating on a riot game, bricking their pc is obviously fucked, and will end up biting riot in the ass (i.e. not good for riot, either)."

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_imnothere an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

A saying being old doesn’t make it invalid anyway. What’s your point?

	▲	nekzn an hour ago \| parent [-]
		My point is that this saying is the tritest of the trite, and therefore not worth being posted.