| ▲ | jedahan an hour ago |
| Reminder if you work for any of these companies (not unlikely on this site) you are actively enabling this. If your first reaction is doubt, deflection, rationalization or discomfort, there are ways out. |
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| ▲ | 6thbit an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| If you make open source used by any of this companies for this network, would you also characterize it as actively enabling this? If your retirement fund owns stocks of the s&p 500, does that make you an enabler? Are there really ways out? |
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| ▲ | pamcake an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Are those things you are personally struggling with (if you are considering quitting open source contribitions wholesale: don't let this make you) or is this a showcase of rationalization? | |
| ▲ | Barbing 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Are there really ways out? Not with that attitude | |
| ▲ | jedahan 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Its very personal and situation dependent, but I truly believe that if you work at Amazon or Facebook and do not want to support this, you can. | |
| ▲ | croes an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | No Yes Maybe |
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| ▲ | BeetleB 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do you feel the same way about the warehouse workers? |
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| ▲ | Manuel_D an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Or perhaps when Amazon facilities security encounters someone doing destructive or harmful things, then sharing that information with other companies in the city is a perfectly reasonable measure? This is functionally no different than sharing your encounters with disruptive people on NextDoor. |
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| ▲ | KennyBlanken 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Or perhaps when Amazon facilities security encounters someone doing destructive or harmful things, then sharing that information with other companies in the city is a perfectly reasonable measure? If only there were a way to address people doing destructive or harmful things. We could even make it reachable using a telephone, with a very convenient to dial, short, easily remembered number sequence. I don't know about you, but in my area, NextDoor is mostly "I saw non-white errrrr I mean, uh, 'someone who doesn't look like they belong here' person in my neighborhood" and general witch-hunting any time it's mentioned someone gets arrested for Also, we have concepts like "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" for a reason. Corporatizing law enforcement is not a good thing. If Amazon wants to work with the PD they can show up to a community relations meeting like everyone else? | | |
| ▲ | Manuel_D 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Innocent until proven guilty only applies to the government. Again, say you run a store in the city. You encounter someone who smashes some merchandise. The police don't make an arrest because the person insists it was accidental, but you're confident it was intentional. Is it wrong to share this experience with other shopkeepers? The irony is that curbing this "private intelligence network" would require infringing on the free speech of private people. |
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| ▲ | stronglikedan 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If you work for any company, you're actively enabling injustices against someone, so just make a living and don't worry so much. |
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