| ▲ | aliasxneo 2 hours ago |
| > For instance, the Church of Scientology, U.S. Navy, and the Washington State Military Department told Prism that they are no longer working with the network. That first one took me by surprise. What a random hodgepodge of organizations. |
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| ▲ | giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| 4chan validated in their protests against Scientology was not in my bingo card. |
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| ▲ | QuercusMax 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Scientologists being involved with intelligence agencies doesn't surprise me even a bit, it makes a lot of sense as a CIA cutout. |
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| ▲ | futuraperdita 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Infiltration of government institutions has been doctrine for the group since the 1970s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White | |
| ▲ | Deprogrammer9 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Those weirdos followed me around Ybor near Tampa when I said something negative about them online in public. IT WAS WEIRD! But I gave no Fs | | |
| ▲ | stronglikedan 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Man, I wish something like this would have happened to me when I was younger and spunkier. For years, I've had so many scenarios planned in my head for how something like that would play out! Even today, I might not just ignore it even though my propensity to give fucks has waned over the years. | |
| ▲ | retardkiller 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | joe_the_user an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It seems likely that every tightly clique is trying to infiltrate every other such clique - it's endless battle between mafias, political parties, cults (Tulsi Gabard's connections to Krishna cult), intelligence agencies and so-forth, each trying to use the other. But naturally, there significant limits on how much and how long each of infiltration be effective. A infiltrator from X sent to gain control of Y and gaining complete control there of will often identify with Y since leading it give them more power (Stalin was likely a agent of the Czarist secret police before the revolution but he probably wasn't taking orders from them in 1935 etc). | | | |
| ▲ | acidhousemcnab 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Any belief system or club that validates sociopathy as a "higher" state of evolution or enlightenment will worm it's way into intelligence agencies. | | |
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| ▲ | coliveira 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Scientology is essentially a scheme to get private/incriminating information from very important people. Why the surprise? |
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| ▲ | colechristensen 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Scientology is what happens when a science fiction writer acts out a dystopian plot in real life instead of writing a novel. Read Stranger in a Strange Land, read about Hubbard and Heinlein's friendship, and look at the timeline of when Scientology started and Stranger in a Strange Land was published. | | |
| ▲ | CGMthrowaway an hour ago | parent [-] | | That may be true however today it is 2026 not 1961, LRH fell off the earth in 1980, and it is feasible that after the raids in 1977 and/or upon gaining tax-exempt status in 1993, some sort of deal was cut with the US state/intel apparatus to co-opt the church for another purpose | | |
| ▲ | colechristensen an hour ago | parent [-] | | No, shady deals and intel capture fits perfectly fine with the original dystopian novel in the real world. |
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| ▲ | sysguest 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | damn I wonder how many scientology believers in intel actually believe in scientology... I mean, it shows how much intel agencies can "screen for high intelligence individuals" ? | | |
| ▲ | sidewndr46 an hour ago | parent [-] | | people believe in scientology as much as they believe in a literature club. If you listen to someone like Tom Cruise's statements he says "I have gotten to where I am today because of Scientology". He doesn't name off specific procedures, treatments, practices, etc. Partially because they are barred from naming them. But if you're looking for a club you can advance it, I highly suspect Scientology is as quid pro quo as anything else out there. In other words, it's more of a social function than a religion. | | |
| ▲ | loeg 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | You get or used to get true believers working in hellish conditions[1] on the boats, paid ~nothing. It might be a quid pro quo convenience for the Tom Cruises, but there are also some suckers. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Org#Lawsuits | |
| ▲ | hydrogen7800 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is an interesting way of putting it, but matches my thoughts. I think most such organizations (political parties, religions, businesses, large organizations of many types) consist of true believers at the bottom of the pyramid, and moving up the ranks are folks who recognize that they can advance by understanding the game and utilizing the group mind to maintain credibility among the true believers, while displaying ambition to elites to advance the groups goals. At some point in the hierarchy are folks whose primary or only function is to advance the groups goals using middle ranks to maintain legitimacy with the believers. | |
| ▲ | psychoslave an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Religion is all about social function, at least from social science perceptives I guess. |
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