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nehal3m 2 hours ago

This is naive in the opposite. Creators gonna create.

modriano an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Creators can only create as long as they can sustain the costs of creating (including opportunity cost).

Jtarii an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Who is giving a creator millions of dollars to create something if there is no guaranteed path to recouping production costs.

Are we going the communist soviet union route where everything is decided by central committee?

nehal3m an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That is not the only scale to create on. Also, Linux is free. There’s more than one way to make something available.

Jtarii an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Just a fundamental disagreement then. I want to live in the world that created The Lord of the Rings.

koonsolo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Linux is clearly not public domain as it has a GPL license. And GPL heavily depends on copyright laws.

epicide an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Capitalists who capitalize on creative outlets need capital to incentivize them to do so. It's basically circular.

Those of us who create for creation's sake need no other reason. I create because I want to, not because I want to use it to gain capital.

Sure, those lines get muddy when you want to do it professionally, but that's a separate argument.

Jtarii an hour ago | parent | next [-]

>Those of us who create for creation's sake need no other reason. I create because I want to, not because I want to use it to gain capital.

How do you create without capital? To make a film you need a camera crew, a sound crew, set designers, caterers, a director, scriptwriters. A world without professional creatives is so much poorer than the world we already have. Why would you give it up just for some vague notion of ideological purity.

epicide an hour ago | parent [-]

You absolutely do not need a camera crew, a sound crew, set designers, and caterers to make a film. You need a director and scriptwriters, but those can be the same person. Do many film sets have all those? Absolutely. But one can still make a film without them. Some of the best films ever created were mostly the product of one person with a budget less than half that of the average car.

Would you be able to create big-budget movies without said big budget? Of course not. I obviously like some of those too, but who's to say that the larger budget made them better? It feels like you're conflating art creation with art business, but they are not the same thing.

Jtarii an hour ago | parent [-]

I suppose you are okay with all animated films being impossible to create then.

>I obviously like some of those too, but who's to say that the larger budget made them better?

If you legitimately believe something like 2001: A Space Odyssey would be as good with a budget of $10,000 then that just seems delusional.

The world you want is one in which the only people who can create things are people who are wealthy by other means, there is no pathway for a talented but poor kid to go from making home movies to working on films without IP laws. They must abandon their dreams and go work in the coal mines or whatever. It is dystopian.

I want the most amount of people possible to be able to work as professional creatives because it enriches my life and the lives of everyone in the country I live in.

jonathanstrange an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The point is that without copyright you can' do it professionally. Someone will just sell whatever you created for you and you will not get a cent from it.