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hparadiz 2 hours ago

You guys have fun arguing. I'm gonna be building cool stuff.

matt_kantor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, don't let pesky discussions about ethics get in the way of building cool stuff.

I'm working on paving over the Amazon rainforest so I can build the world's largest roller coaster, but for some reason people keep trying to talk me out of it. Good thing I have this bucket of sand to put my head in so I can tune them out.

hparadiz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You assume that I think using language models is unethical. I do not agree that it is. Now what?

matt_kantor an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The argument that you're ignoring is about whether they're ethical or not. Your priors may land you on either side of that argument, but ideally you're willing to have your mind changed if the other side makes a strong enough case.

But intentionally blinding yourself to the debate and plowing ahead anyway (which is how I interpreted your parent comment) sounds like willful ignorance.

hparadiz 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

I'm not ignoring anything. I've already moved on and I don't owe you further debate. No one does. If you don't like it we have a very thorough legal process you can follow.

malfist 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"No u" isn't a valid counter argument. Arguer made no assumption about your view of the ethics of LLMs.

jayd16 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That's what the sand bucket was about.

jayd16 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Still waiting for this massive wave of cool stuff.

bcrosby95 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's just hobby projects with larger scope.

I can see from a lot of replies the "cool" threshold is undefined, but here goes:

For myself it let me finish a project I started a year ago for measuring how much home energy efficiency upgrades will reduce my AC usage. I bought a pile of Raspberry Pi Picos and turned them mostly into temperature reading devices, but also one that can detect when my AC turns on.

So I can record how often my AC runs and I can record the temperature at various points around the house, which lets me compare like-for-like before-and-after.

The easy but unrealistic way to accomplish what I want is to use Python. It gives me access to a file system, a shell, and all sorts of other niceties. But I wanted to run these on two AA batteries and based upon my measurements they would last about 2 weeks. I tested using C instead and they should last 4 months. That's long enough for my use case. There's enough flash storage for that time period too.

However this means I need to write all the utilities for configuring the Picos myself. There's all sorts of annoying things such as having to set the clock (picos lose it anytime they lose power), having to write directly to flash memory (no operating system), having to write a utility for exporting that data from flash memory, and so on.

And AI coding let me burn through a pile of code I knew how to write but didn't care to spend my weekends doing so.

The pattern is the same for my friends who are software devs. And yeah, you're probably never going to see any of it, but that's not why they're making it, they don't want the maintenance burden.

esikich 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're acting as if developers haven't been using AI to build for years already.

jayd16 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Where was the coolness inflection point?

hparadiz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

In the past three months I've shipped more code than I have in years.

New php extension https://github.com/hparadiz/ext-gnu-grep

A Demo showing how to stream webrtc to KDE Wayland overlay. https://github.com/hparadiz/camera-notif

A fun little tool that captures stdout/stderr on any running process. https://github.com/hparadiz/bpf_write_monitor

Then I upgraded my 10 year old hand written framework to a new version that supports sqlite and postgres on top of existing MySQL support https://github.com/Divergence/framework

But then I was like eh lemme benchmark every PHP orm that exists just to check my framework's orm....

https://github.com/hparadiz/the-php-bench

And published the results.... Here

https://the-php-bench.technex.us/

And then I decided to vibe code a simulation of the entire local steller group https://earth.technex.us

Followed by my simulation of the Artemis 3 landing sites at the lunar South pole https://artemis-iii.technex.us/?scale=1.000#South-Pole

And I left the best for last.....

https://github.com/hparadiz/evemon

A brand new task manager written in C for Linux that supports a plugin architecture with an event bus. It's literally the best gui Linux task manager ever. Still working on it.

I'm not even talking about my paid job. This is me just fucking around.

If you think none of this stuff is cool I don't even respect you as a dev.

jayd16 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Task manager seems fun. In your screenshot, are your two task manager instances using a GB of ram?

hparadiz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Without the milk drop plugin it's stable around 175 with all the other plugins. With no plugins it's about 80 mb at idle but the memory usage is higher if there's more processes running.

4f43452 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most people have busy lives and they don't care about this stuff.

bigstrat2003 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And yet, no cool stuff from those developers.

fantasizr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

there seems to be great innovation in npm package hacking, but that's about it. Oh yeah, bad uptimes and ruined open source projects. If only AI was left to discrete math brute forcing problems and alphafold.

helloplanets 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

One example would be Linus Torvalds vibe coding this a couple weeks ago: https://github.com/torvalds/AudioNoise

It's obviously a hobby project. But you'd be hard pressed to find a more old school, in the weeds programmer than him, and even he's building cool stuff with AI.

Not sure who you're referring to with "those developers"?

peteforde 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not a reach to suggest that if you've used software written in the past 2-3 years, you're enjoying cool stuff.

Moreover, all of the tools that the people who build software use are also cool stuff.

It's also not just code and software that is benefitting from these new tools. Use of LLMs in engineering tasks is blowing up right now.

jayd16 an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure that extrapolating the last 2 to 3 years as a sign of things to come is as enticing an argument as you seem to think it is . If you exclude AI for ai's sake, the feature lists of the last 2 years have been incredibly anemic. If you include AI companies bootstrapping themselves with AI, the cash flow has been a nice change but I can't say it's felt fully baked, or flooded with stable software and well-crafted workflows.

I'm really not trying to be a hater but when people tell me that we're already in the AI Nirvana it gives me pause.

kzrdude 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's a massive wave of stuff, at least. Sorting it, is not easy.

SeanDav 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OpenClaw. Vibe-coded and one of the most rapidly successful and popular pieces of software ever developed.

uberduper 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm building the same stuff I've always built. Just faster and with less dependence on others. Not having to argue with devs that have their own agendas has been my biggest benefit from coding agents.

malfist 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Not having to argue with devs that have their own agendas

Agendas like, "let's not check our API key into a public github repo" or "Let's not store passwords in plaintext" or "Don't expose customer data via a public api"?

uberduper an hour ago | parent [-]

No. Agendas like, "I need to push my ideas for promotion credits."

Fokamul 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you mean my stuff?

Yes, I'm suing you, since it's my stuff now, I've licensed your code 5minutes ago.

Prove me wrong at court, you have create it...

parliament32 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm happy for you, but please, for all of our sakes, keep it to yourself. Don't make a public repo, don't post links. Go sit in the corner by yourself with your slop generators and leave the rest of us alone.

stronglikedan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I'm gonna be building cool stuff.

hardly. at best you're going to be asking a robot to build questionable stuff with other people's LEGOs

hparadiz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You just described all software.

therealdkz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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