This is an adversarial process. Unions exist to fight employers. Unions spend about 23 billion a year in total. Only spending 1.5B to defend against 23B looks like a bargain.

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disantlor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

yeah but how much are employers spending to lobby, etc, and is that not a significant force-multiplier on their 1.5B direct spend against unions?

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fmbb 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They have the lawmakers on their side.

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baron816 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Who does? The unions definitely have lawmakers on their side.

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maerF0x0 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AFAIK The USA is one of the most anti-union non-authoritarian countries for a very long time. In other countries people receive a lot more support and protections for the right to organize

	▲	baron816 8 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Unions often exert more power at the state and local level. In certain states, they can consistently wield a lot of power. Unions in the US tend to be much more aggressive than they are in other places, which has in part led to their decline. Americans historically have tended to hate unions at the times when they’re powerful, and love them at times when they’re weak. In other words, people like the idea of unions in theory, but hate them in practice.

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nielsbot an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

what’s your evidence for that?

It that’s true, why is union membership declining? why did Trump et al gut the NLRB? why do starbucks unionized employees STILL not have a contract years after forming a union?

Unions are good and we need more of them.