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NietTim 4 hours ago

Some people just want to hate. I'll never understand it. The world is beautiful and so is AI. That doesn't mean they don't have ugly sides too, but choosing to focus on the ugly sides is a choice.

tavavex an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You could ignore the ugly sides in 2018 or 2022, when the tech consisted of fun toys that existed alongside everything else and not instead of it.

In 2026, unless you're wealthy or are one of the few that don't need to use the internet to live, focusing on the ugly sides is not optional. When the ugly parts are coming for your employment, community, ability to own anything, your favorite spaces on the internet and your power and voice in society, you can't just turn away and say that you'll just ignore that, and then pretend like everyone pointing to the oncoming train is just a negative naysayer who's upset because they're bad and like to feel bad and no other reasons.

NietTim an hour ago | parent [-]

Your argument clearly comes from a doomer perspective, your employment will be gone (Maybe, but you will find new employment), your community will be gone (?), your ability to own anything will be gone (?????)

> your favorite spaces on the internet and your power and voice in society(??), you can't just turn away and say that you'll just ignore tha

I've clearly been on the internet longer then you, all of my favorite places are already gone. It's completely fine. Life is finite and there is something beautiful about that.

I wish you too will find the beauty in life at some point.

tavavex an hour ago | parent [-]

I will admit that, being more directly impacted by the way AI is deployed, I have some 'harsh' opinions. You're not required to agree with them, and the point I was making wasn't to win you over to a different opinion. (Although, despite using very strong wording to describe those effects, surely you can see the points people are making about the impacts of centralizing power, diluting the internet with botted content or contributing to the increased rent-ification of the web without just drawing question marks, right?)

The point is that, in acknowledging that there is a valid 'doomer' perspective to begin with, you're undermining your initial argument - namely, that the opposition simply likes to dislike things, and that their arguments have little depth or merit because they're only cherrypicking or making things up to serve some kind of hidden thirst for negativity.

drdrey an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

it's tribal, it feels good to rally against a common enemy

inglor_cz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I agree with you - I am already alarmed at how many people are now so openly hateful. As if they were waiting for a social licence to show their hearts and minds openly.

It is in vogue to hate AI now, so they loudly proclaim their hate towards it, because it is widely acceptable.

I will always be a little wary around those people who now profess their hate towards AI aloud. Who knows what and whom they hate with the same passion, but won't tell because the time isn't ripe yet.

satvikpendem an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's a type of engagement bait, people like posting things online which they know will rile up reactions.

NietTim an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Weird responses you're getting, I agree with you fully, if someone is constantly putting on display what they hate I'll keep as far away from them as I can be.

NoGravitas 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'll tell. It's you. You personally, and no one else. Not a category of people that includes you. Just you.

NietTim an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Such a weird, non HN worthy, type of comment. Just pure personal attack while they said nothing weird. Why are you here?

inglor_cz an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't particularly care if you hate me, I am more wary about people being hateful in general. It is a dangerous emotion to nurture and channels people towards acting in an evil way.

And the rationalizations tend to be questionable. 100 years ago, plenty of people would tell you that Jews are bloodsuckers who dominate the economy with their greed and enslave regular workers. It isn't exactly the same, but surely it rhymes.

At least today the hated enemy is a bit abstract and not a human. Though the hate can easily extend towards actual people who work on it.