> Deepseekv4 is freely available to download you can host your own and sell it keeping the proceeds and it rivals Claude Opus 4.7.

good luck getting a machine that can run its specs though. Even flash is goign to require ponying up 5-10 grand to run the minimal specs for it. The vast majority of people will find their machine falls behind as tech progresses long before they get a return on that investment. That said, it does mean there will be a healthy market for "generic providers" in the AI landscape with these open weight models.

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hootz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not "there will be", there already is a market of generic providers and you can use millions of tokens of DeepSeek-v4-flash for like 1 dollar.

https://models.dev/?search=deepseek-v4-flash

	▲	smallmancontrov 17 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah, but will those hosted models help me write smut, advance my weekend CBRN hobby, advice on how to kill myself, advice on how to kill the person who made me want to kill myself, and how to set up a mega drug manufacturing operation like a real life Walter White?

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zackify 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://github.com/antirez/ds4

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Glohrischi 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Companies still pay 5k and more for a basic website. 5-10k is quite affordable.

Investment is not basic math. Its also dependencies to US companies, trust etc.

	▲	Lord-Jobo 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Investment and finance in general, at this scale, is far more geopolitics than it is math. It’s self evident. We’ve all seen how the “math” on so much of the AI business sector literally doesn’t check out, and here there are: still ballooning, still making deals, still directly crafting laws through political influence, still taking over damn near every user space. Politics at a high enough level lets you play a different game with different rules. Politics at a low enough level lets you do the same actually, but we usually call that civil unrest, guerrilla warfare, or collective action depending on how many of which group is defying which “rules”. It’s very easy to get used to the guardrails and guidelines around us when they persist and succeed for decades, but they are much more fragile than they appear.