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yard2010 3 hours ago

Guys use Vivaldi. It's a present. A browser that has a sustainable business model and interests that reconcile with the user interests - consume the web as god intended, with no literally aids and cancer ads out of the box. I switched a while ago from Firefox and while the UI is.. different, it's been a great experience. In my opinion this project and the great people behind it must be the leaders of this industry, and not the current crooked and twisted hegemony we have now.

I'm not affiliated. Happy user.

AegirLeet 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The real hegemony is the Blink hegemony. Google (an advertising company) can pretty much unilaterally dictate web standards. A terrible state of affairs for the web. That's the real issue and using another Chrome reskin is never going to fix it.

notachatbot123 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/ lists

- Partner deals with search engines - Partner deals with bookmark partners - Partner deals through Direct Match - https://vivaldi.com/blog/privacy-without-compromise-proton-v...

How are integrated ads and dispatch of user data to third-parties sustainable sources of income?

xigoi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Vivaldi for Android does not support extensions, making it a non-starter for me.

nanook an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

reposting here since I feel like this is a big deal and under reported.

beware, their sync will go down for weeks and you may lose all your data. https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1hgfmoh/vivaldi_s... https://www.reddit.com/r/vivaldibrowser/comments/1htf6l7/all...

spinningarrow 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I actively used Vivaldi for several months until recently - on my Mac it would intermittently crash for no reason I could find. I’ve since switched to ungoogled-chromium - it’s only a couple of weeks so it’s early days but so far it’s been very stable.

sys_64738 an hour ago | parent [-]

Sounds like a you problem. It never crashes on me.

tuananh 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

a closed-source browser is a non-starter for me.

dismalaf an hour ago | parent [-]

https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

It's open in all of the ways that matter, basically they just want to protect their look and feel.

wasting_time 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Some of their arguments are ridiculous.

> A new project based on our code might implement features that are fundamentally in opposition to our ethics (e.g., damaging to privacy, human rights or to the environment). Even though we would not be associated with the project in any way, it can deeply affect how people see Vivaldi (and how we see ourselves), damaging a reputation we have taken pains to earn.

> You can’t test drive open-source and then close everything back off if it turns out that open-source isn’t working out.

At the same time they express regret that the Presto engine from their Opera roots didn't get open-sourced. Which was much more novel than just a Chromium re-skin.

The entire article can be summarized as "we worry that others might make a better product off our code" and "can't be arsed to meet the quality standards of the free software community".

No thank you.

dismalaf 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Are you reading the same article?

> "can't be arsed to meet the quality standards of the free software community".

Lol literally all the code is visible. Also 90% of Firefox forks are low-effort re-skins...

brnt 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> interests that reconcile with the user interests

How are you paying them? And have you done any network analysis on it recently (I really would like to know!)?

dncornholio 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

aids and cancer, seriously?

slig 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Closed source and based on Webkit? At least Brave is open source.

kavok 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m pretty sure Brave and Vivaldi are both based on Chromium/Blink not WebKit.

slig 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Thanks, that's what I get for commenting before the coffee kicks in.