What bizarre and absurd line of reasoning. Users who care about their privacy and opt out of downloading ads and malware are 'denying creators revenue'?

Are you denying creators revenue by not reading reading/observing every ad that comes your way and making purchases based on them? Maybe you should read/comment on HN less and focus on consuming more ads instead?

What at an incredibly stupid thing to say.

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WarmWash 4 hours ago | parent [-]

When you don't want the ads and privacy invasion, you don't visit the website. There are still honestly free things on the internet one can enjoy.

Like if a video game is too expensive for your liking, you simply don't buy it. Going and pirating it is not a valid response. You get the game and creator gets nothing. You can just stick to playing honestly free games, there are plenty out there.

This idea that digital data is worthless is stupid child logic born from when kids ruled the internet. Obviously it has value, as evidence by the very top level post I responded to.

(Also, as an aside, it's only heavy ad-block/privacy tool users who get malware and scam ads, because they have no profile and only bottom feeders bid on their views. Regular users get Tide and Chevy ads.)

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aleqs 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> When you don't want the ads and privacy invasion, you don't visit the website.

First of all, I can and will visit any website I want, and I will use an ad blocker while doing so. Second - how do you know what ads and privacy invasion a website might have before you visit it? Makes no sense.

> Like if a video game is too expensive for your liking, you simply don't buy it. Going and pirating it is not a valid response

In either case the creator gets zero $. It could be argued that pirating might actually benefit the creator more - since it would increase overall usage/adoption/prevalence of the product/game. So your argument is kinda backwards.

> This idea that digital data is worthless is stupid child logic born from when kids ruled the internet.

You keep mentioning 'kids' and 'teenagers' across your comments seemingly as a way to imply that you have some kind of greybeard wisdom and special knowledge. You don't and your arguments don't make sense - your own realization of that is probably what triggers you to call everyone who disagrees with your kids and teenagers LMAO.

And for the record - intellectual property is a made up scam, the only purpose of which is to stifle competition.

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WarmWash 4 hours ago | parent [-]

>First of all, I can and will visit any website I want, and I will use an ad blocker while doing so.

And so can LLMs, so I don't see why anyone should be upset about "stealing content"

>In either case the creator gets zero $. It could be argued that pirating might actually benefit the creator more - since it would increase overall usage/adoption/prevalence of the product/game. So your argument is kinda backwards.

So how do you decide (I'm asking you), who are the suckers who pay, and who are the ones that get it free? I say child a lot because it's really only kids who cannot see how a system like that plays out.

Just a heads up, with donation systems, typically ~1% of people convert to a donation.

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aleqs 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Whoever can and wants to pay is free to pay. Everyone else is free to not pay. Not sure what the problem with that is - seems like a basic human right/freedom unless your brain is consumed by the marketing/advertising virus.

In many cases running something like an online game requires server s/infra , and also requires an active subscription - not something you can generally get around.

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WarmWash 3 hours ago | parent [-]

>In many cases running something like an online game requires server s/infra , and also requires an active subscription - not something you can generally get around.

Why would they pay for server infra or pay the devs? They should just be free to pay what they want or pay nothing at all. Not sure what the problem is.

	▲	aleqs 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They are free to pay whatever they want to pay, and the devs are free to accept/deny any work/payment they deem required. Let me know if you need me to break it down for you further.