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freejazz 2 hours ago

>I can have my agentic system read a few data sheets, then I explain the project requirements and have it design driver specifications, protocols, interfaces, and state machines. Taking those, develop an implementation plan. Working from that, write the skeleton of the application, then fill it in to create a functional system using a novel combination of hardware.

When you put it that way, isn't it crazy you have to tell it to do that? Like shouldn't it just figure out it needs to do that?

Silamoth an hour ago | parent | next [-]

This is exactly it. A human capable of reasoning might not know how to write code. But they can learn and be taught. Eventually, you can give them a vague problem, and they’ll know what clarifying questions to ask and how to write the code. LLMs cannot do that.

If you have to do the reasoning and tell the LLM the results of your reasoning before it can generate the code you want, surely that tells you the LLM isn’t reasoning. Agentic workflows hide some of it, but anyone who’s interacted even a little with an LLM can tell they’re not reasoning, no matter how OpenAI and Anthropic label their models.

K0balt 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

I’m not really sure. I’m constantly presented with a blurry line and it isn’t getting less blurry. If anything it’s slowly dissolving. Or maybe it’s me, falling victim to AI psychosis lol.

K0balt an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, I also have had to explain this same basic workflow to junior devs in the past, so I guess not?

freejazz 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

> I also have had to explain this same basic workflow to junior devs

That would not surprise me.