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dotcoma 3 hours ago

Remember when they told us that social media would "spread democracy" ?

fnordpiglet 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, I don’t. I remember when the internet would (it did!) and Usenet would (it did!) and irc and open source and the web (they did!) but social media was always about entertainment and (one way or another) monetization of those technologies. It’s the cancer of our collective mind and achievements.

dotcoma 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Here you go.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/06/08/the-twitter-devolution/

See also...

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/06/evalu...

And these lies, of course, were spread by the social media platforms themselves and their PR departments.

Ajedi32 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't that precisely why this is happening? Because it's doing exactly that, and the people in power in these countries don't like it?

manoDev an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“Spread democracy” means “manipulate public opinion to submit to USA”.

That includes censoring content that threatens puppet governments.

999900000999 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who told you that, the entire point was to talk to girls you lacked the courage to strike up a conversation with.

Saying ‘hi, I also like that band you have a shirt of’ was just too hard so we had to create trillion dollar monstrosities.

dotcoma 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I thought that was true only for Zuck …

noname120 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve never heard a single time social media companies say that social media would spread democracy. Sounds like a straw man to me

SauciestGNU an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It was a fairly common narrative during the Arab Spring, when the technology was still relatively novel.

lostlogin 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s quite the contrast when you look at Twitter then and X now.

krapp 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It can and does. The power of social media to spread ideas and accelerate political action is why fascists took it over and co-opted it. That's why we're fed the narrative that social media is evil and needs to be regulated or banned at all costs.

dotcoma 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you remember cases in which it "accelerated political action" ?

Natfan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

famously the Arab spring

Natfan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

also BLM, israel palestine

and the genocide in myanmar, that was definitely accelerated political action

krapp 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There have been plenty. Surely you aren't arguing that social media has never done so. Arguably social media has been one of the most catalyzing political forces in human history. And bearing in mind that "political action" can be in any direction, I found some examples. I didn't work very hard because this could have literally been a Google search on your part.

Arab Spring

Nepalese Discord Protests

Euromaidan revolution in Ukraine

2009 Iranian presidential election protests

2011 Egyptian revolution

#BlackLivesMatter

#MeToo

Hong Kong protests

#NoKings protests

Yellow Vest protests (France)

Anti-Israel/Pro-Palestine protests

Anti-vaccine protests during COVID

Rohingya genocide

GamerGate

dotcoma 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The case of Iran in 2009 is notoriously false. See for example what ForeignPolicy has to say about it.

More in general, Malcolm Gladwell is not convinced about the power of social media...

https://archive.is/GryvI#selection-323.0-355.16