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Sohcahtoa82 5 hours ago

> - people don't actually like music like you, and just want content; non-stop content.

This is the big thing that artists are going through right now.

They're realizing that most consumers of art don't care about the process or the artist. They just want music as background noise, or an aesthetically pleasing picture on their wall.

I wanted to listen to heavy metal songs about office life. I'm not going to spend years learning how to play guitar in order to record it, not to mention that I have a voice fit for old school silent movies. I'm certainly not going to spend money on commissioning a song. But 5 minutes in ChatGPT to write and refine some lyrics, followed by 15 minutes in Suno playing with various prompts, and eventually I got "Per My Last Email"[0], and I was happy.

Let the musicians rage against my shortcut. I don't care. Let them rage against some notion of "quality" and how AI doesn't provide it. Don't care, it's good enough for me.

[0] https://youtu.be/ZVia46yAoMU

QuercusMax 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The think your last sentence hits the nail on the head: it's good enough for YOU. You've essentially made a novelty song, and I don't believe you're going to be listening to it for years.

The problem is when people spend 20 minutes prompting up a song and then attempt to make a career out of slop, and in the process drown out all the new creative works that aren't just remixed slop.

gizzlon 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> You've essentially made a novelty song

Disagree. Gp didn't make anything.

I told a waiter in a restaurant what I wanted to eat, and I got it. But I did not make the food : )

QuercusMax 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe more like collaborated with a robo chef to make a plate of food based on a recipe you've adapted.

At some point you have to be OK with accepting "I made this" as meaning "my vision was executed under my supervision".

pesus 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> At some point you have to be OK with accepting "I made this" as meaning "my vision was executed under my supervision".

No one has to be ok with this.

QuercusMax 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

Do you argue with a film director when they talk about having made a movie? Do you argue with a founder when they talk about having built a product?

gizzlon 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, I don't have to be okay with that.

It's like oneshotting an app with Lovable or cc and bragging about what "I made"

Sohcahtoa82 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Disagree. Gp didn't make anything.

As the GP, I actually agree. I will never claim to have written the song, and I generally try to avoid claiming I "made" the song unless I include the "with Suno" caveat. I prefer to say that I "generated" the song.

> I told a waiter in a restaurant what I wanted to eat, and I got it. But I did not make the food : )

Then can we also stop giving credit to CEOs for the products their company makes? Elon Musk doesn't make EVs or rocket ships.

Sohcahtoa82 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> and I don't believe you're going to be listening to it for years.

Well...it's a year and a half old and I still listen to it on a regular basis.

> and in the process drown out all the new creative works that aren't just remixed slop.

It might be shocking to you, but maybe people actually like "remixed slop".

QuercusMax 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Lots of people eat McDonald's but that doesn't mean it's good for you and will support your nutritional goals, or even that it's good food which tastes good.

If you want to listen to nothing but slop I can't stop you.