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JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago

> I trust my government (Switzerland)

I do, too. I’m not sure I trust Brussels.

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surgical_fire 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I certainly trust the EU a lot more than I trust US corporations.

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh, 100%. But the choice here is between European banks and a state-run Pix equivalent.

ekianjo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do they deserve your trust?

surgical_fire 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The government? Either the national government or the EU get legitimacy by being democratic instructions. That doesn't mean they get blind faith, it is healthy to scrutinize their actions.

US corporations on the other hand get only my contempt and scorn.

izacus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I even trust EU more than the local corrupt country governments.

Lionga 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Considering the head of EZB is a convicted criminal with, lets call it interesting, letters to the convicted criminal Sarkozy I am not sure what is plague and what cholera.

wsng 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Lagarde is not a convicted criminal. She was convicted for negligence, but this is not a criminal conviction.

throwaway2037 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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Fnoord 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Why use a LLM when you got Wikipedia [1]. Which references an article in The Guardian [2]:

> A French court convicted the head of the International Monetary Fund and former government minister, who had faced a €15,000 (£12,600) fine and up to a year in prison. But it decided she should not be punished and that the conviction would not constitute a criminal record. On Monday evening the IMF gave her its full support.

> The verdict came as a surprise as even the public prosecutor had admitted the evidence against Lagarde was “weak” during a five-day trial last week. Jean-Claude Marin told the court Lagarde’s actions fell into the category of politics and not criminality and called for her to be acquitted.

If the public prosecutor admits the evidence is weak, then I take that at face value. I'm open to evidence of the contrary, but without such, I just have to assume the case was weak.

It does strike me as odd that she was convicted. I suppose the evidence wasn't negligible.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Lagarde#Conviction_o...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/christine-laga...

throwaway2037 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Hat tip. I did not think to check Wiki for this issue. Thanks.

I agree: The comment from the public prosecutor is excellent. To me that is a very strong sign of a well-balanced, highly functioning democracy (and its legal system).

dvfjsdhgfv 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Taken into account than of two convicted criminals, Sarkozy went to prison and will probably be sent there again, whereas Trump is running a big country, I'm pretty sure which is which.

Fnoord 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lets see. Gerhard Schroeder, fled to RU. Nicolas Sarkozy, convicted. Silvio Berlusconi, convicted. Geert Wilders, convicted. Slobodan Milošević, convicted. Jean-Marie Le Pen, convicted. Marine Le Pen, convicted.

Donald Trump, convicted (pardoned everyone who attempted a coup on Jan 6 2021).

Victor Orban, surely he'll get convicted.

Benjamin N., Vladimir P.: wanted by ICC.

(This excludes cases like Jan Maršálek / Wirecard fraud / GRU spy. Also, have a peak at all the cleaning Zelenski's government had to do, including in his inner circle.)

Seems we in Europe at least are attempting to uphold the rule of law. I can't say the same for US corporations or US government, given the current administration. That being said... can we stop voting for these narcissistic criminals? Thank you in advance.

niemandhier 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I met Mr Schröder on Saturday in the Opera. I can therefore vouch that he is not in Russia.

ekianjo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> attempted a coup

funny everyone forgot to bring guns for the coup