| ▲ | Xirdus 6 hours ago |
| The problem with 3D Secure is that the merchant can unilaterally decide not to use it, which defeats the whole purpose of 3D Secure. |
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| ▲ | swiftcoder 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > the merchant can unilaterally decide not to use it If they do so, they are telling the card issuer that they are happy to be on the hook for chargebacks/fraud. It's not an decision without consequences |
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| ▲ | handle584 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Comparing to fraud 3DS reduces sales turn over by a lot, and this is the reason why for the most part it is not required in the US, too much friction during check out hurts business. |
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| ▲ | nottorp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I tend to associate ignoring 3D Secure with Stripe. In the name of "less friction" of course. |
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| ▲ | antonkochubey 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| non-3DS payments are trivial to chargeback, at least in the EU |
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| ▲ | kccqzy 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In America all payments are trivial to chargeback anyways. We ought to have liability shifting. A long time ago there was a liability shift where if a merchant uses the magnetic stripe on a card equipped with a chip, then the merchant is unconditionally liable in case of a chargeback. We just needed merchants to be liable when the bank supported 3DSecure but the merchant chose not to use it. | |
| ▲ | lxgr 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They are everywhere. Default liability for online payments is and has always been with the merchant; only 3DS and some wallets can shift it to the issuer. |
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